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Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 21 2003, 10:46 PM

Ocito je da svi dijelimo zanimanje za vilenjacke jezike - neki nesto znaju, neki bi htjeli znati, neki upravo uce. Nije produktivno rastresati to po raznim topicima i onda traziti tko je kome sto stavio ili dao :rolleyes: - trebali bismo sve to skupiti na jedno mjesto.
Tako ce i oni koji samo gledaju i posjecuju stranicu kao gosti znati tocno gdje sto traziti, a mislim da je to smisao cijele stvari.
Moj prijedlog je da svi tu stavljamo ono sto imamo o jezicima, kao sto je Antocjo napravio s Yahoo grupama za slike. Zajednicki, mislim da cemo uspjeti skupiti prilican fond rijeci, izraza, pjesama i svaceg zanimljivog, ukljucujuci i gramatiku, pravopis i slicne stvari.

Za pocetak, netko je negdje spomenuo da mu se svidja Evenstar.
Idemo...

Evenstar

I.
Solo in Sindarin

Ú i vethed nâ i onnad. [0.00]
Si boe ú-dhanna.
Ae ú-esteli, esteliach nad.

Chorus in Sindarin (simultaneous with above)
Ú i vethed nâ i onnad. [0.00]

Chorus in Sindarin (alone)
Nâ boe ú i. [0.48]

II.
Solo in Sindarin
Estelio han, estelio han, estelio, [1.58]
estelio han, estelio veleth.

Chorus in Sindarin (simultaneous with above)
Teliach nad, estelio han. [1.58]

I.
'Not the end [it] is the beginning.
Now it-is-necessary [that] don't-fall
If you don't-trust some-thing.'
'Not the end [it] is the beginning.'
'[It] is necessary don't that.'

II.
'Trust this, trust this, trust
Trust this, trust love.'
You play something, trust this.'


Jos kad bi si Antocjo sutra ujutro dao truda i ovo nam uglazbio :whistling:
Posted by: luthien May 21 2003, 11:00 PM

evo ja stavljam link na sajtic sa polurijecnikom vilenjackim!!
taj netko se potrudio...nema bas hrpa toga ali vrijedi pogledat

(URL: http://members.fortunecity.com/caras_galadon/dictionary.htm#A)

:D

a tu je i puno toga. Od razvoja vilenjackih jezika do nekakvog rijecnika primitivnog vilenjackog...

(URL: http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/primelv.htm#Heading2)

Edited by luthien t on May 21 2003, 10:01 PM
Posted by: luthien May 21 2003, 11:10 PM

Vilenjacka imena :wub: :wub: :wub:

Galadriel:
Sindarin. The Quenya word for light is "galad" and "-riel" is short for Quenya "riellë", which means "maiden crowned with a festival garland". So the correct translation of her name means would be "maiden/lady crowned with a garland of light", referring to her golden hair. She inherited it from her father, whose mother was Indis of the Vanyar (who have golden hair). It was said that the golden sheen of Laurelin was caught in Galadriel's hair.

Alatariel:
Telerin. 'alata' means 'shining' or 'light' and '-riel' means 'maiden with a garland of light'. Given to Galadriel by her lover Celeborn. In Sindarin it is Galadriel.

Nerwen/Nerwendë:
Quenya. This is the name Galadriel's mother gave her. "Ner" is the word for "man", and "wen/wendë" means "maiden". So it means "man-maiden". I don't know why she was names this, perhaps it had something to do with her being able to get the same respect as a man, being as strongs as a man. I don't know.

Artanis:
Quenya. Her father gave this name to her, which is a combination of "arta", one one for "noble", (there is also
"ar-" "ara-" and so on) and "nis", "woman". "Noble woman".

Celeborn:
Sindarin. "Celeb" is "silver" and "orn" means "tree", but also "high". So "silver-high" then?

Teleporno:
Quenya. Same meaning as Celeborn.

Celebrían:
Sindarin and Quenya. "Celeb", "silver" and "rían" which is "queen". "Silver queen".

Elrond:
Quenya and Sindarin. "El" means "star" and "rond" is "vault" . Thus "star vault".

Arwen:
Quenya. The word for "noble" can be "ara-" or "ar" and many others, and "wen" comes from "wendë" which means "maiden". So Arwen means "Noble maiden".

Undómiel:
Quenya. "Undomë" is the word for "evening", or more precisely: "the time of evening when the stars come out; star-opening". And "el" means "star". So "Evenstar" as we all know is what Arwen is called.

Elrohir:
"El" is "star" and "rohir" is a mixture of "horse" and "lord. So "star horse lord". son of Elrond.

Elladan:
Quenya. 'star man' from 'el' and 'adan'. although it could have a different meaing since it has 2 ls. son of Elrond.

Haldir:
"Hal" means "tall or high". I think the translation is "tall one".

Eärwen:
"eär" is "sea" in Quenya" and with ending "wen" her name means "Sea maiden". Quite fitting when you concider that her father is Olwë of Alqualondë, the Swan Haven.

Finarfin:
Tongue? 'high Finwe'. Youngest son of Finwe and Indis. Father of Galadriel.

Lúthien:
Doriathrin. "lúth-", "to enchant" and "-ien", "-ress". "enchantress".

Indis
Quenya. The intire name means "bride". Mother of Fingolfin and Finarfin. Second wife of Finwe.

Míriel
Quenya. Meaning just "(female) jewel" or "of jewel" or "daughter of jewel". First wife of Finwe and mother of Feanor.

Aredhel
Quenya. "Noble elf". daughter of Fingolfin.

Elenwë
Quenya. "Star being". Wife of Turgon and mother of Idril.

Fëanor
Sindarin. "fiery soul". Firstborn son of Finwe.

Nimloth
Quenya and Sindarin. "white flower". Wife of Dior Eluchil and mother of Ewing, Elured and Elurin.

Dior
"heir". son of Luthien and Beren.

Melian
Sindarin. "Dear gift". Queen of Doriath, wife of Thingol, and mother of Luthien.

Beren
Quenya. "Bold, brave" and "manly" (?) Son of Barahir and lover of Luthien.

Celebrimbor
Sindarin. 'silver fist'. the elf who forged the great rings for the Elfs, Dwarfs and Men.

Idril
Sildarin (?) 'sparkling', I think. Daughter of Turgon and Elenwe. Mother of Earendil.

Celebrindal
Sindarin. 'silver foot' Idril's second name.

Eldarion
Quenya. 'son of Elves'. the name of the son of Arwen and Aragorn.
later King of the Reunited Kingdoms of Gondor and Arnor.

Legolas
Nandorin. 'greenleafs'. 'leg' is a nandorin form of Sindarin 'leag' - 'gren' and 'olas' means 'leaves' or 'collection of leaves'.

Anaire
Quenya. 'holiest'. The name of Findolfin's wife who stayed behind in Valinor at the Rebellion of the Noldor. She was a Noldo and her children, Fingon, Turgon and Aredhel iherited their dark hair from her.

Beleg
Sindarin. 'great, mighty'. Elf of Doriath.

Lomion
Quenya. 'son of the twilight'. The name Aredhel gave her son in secret as they were still held by Eol.

Maeglin
Quenya. 'keen sight'. The name given to Lomion by his father Eol because of his intence eyes.

Aranwe
Quenya. 'king being'. Elf of Beleriand ho helped Tuor.

Voronwe
Quenya. 'faithful'. Father of Aranwe.

Annael
Quenya; 'Gift star' Elf of Androth, foster father of Tuor.

Serinde
Quenya, 'Broidress', Miriel's nickname, given to her because of her extraordernary skills with her hands.

Ellemire
Quenya, contaction of Elenmire 'Star-jewel'. the Vanya elf who wrote the Lament for the two Trees.

Elured
Sindarin; 'Heir of Elwe'. Son of Dior and Nimloth.

Elurin
Sindarin; 'Remembrance of Elwe'. Son of Dior and Nimloth.

Faelivrin
Sindarin, 'Gleams of the Pools of Ivrin'. Nickname for Finduilas of Nargothrond.

Galdor
Sindarin + a divertion of another dialect. 'Lord of Light.'

Gildor
Sindarin + diverted of another dialect. 'Star lord'.

Meril
Quenya. 'Rose'. She is the ruling Queen of the isle of Eressea of the coast of Valinor.

Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 21 2003, 11:14 PM

Nisam mislio na linkove, iako su korisni - mislio sam da sami stavljamo ono sto skupimo. Mene linkovi zapravo nerviraju - samo me odvlace i ostave negdje odakle se ne znam ni vratiti, nakupim hrpu nepotrebnog sranja, i opet sam na nicemu, osim sto sam izgubio vrijeme i pare.
Ali, kako se kome svidja, po volji vam... :)
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 21 2003, 11:16 PM

Uletila si mi s ovim ispred posta - na TO sam mislio!!! :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

Linkovi sucks!!! :luuuud: :luuuud:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 21 2003, 11:20 PM

Haldir's Lament

Ar sindarnóriello caita mornie,
Ar ilye tier unduláve lumbule...

'And grey-country-from lies darkness,
And all roads down-licked [the] clouds...'


:( :( :shocking: :shocking: :cry: :cry:



Slijedimo vlastitu primjedbu - ovo je quenijski.

Edited by Valarauco ramainen on May 21 2003, 10:45 PM
Posted by: luthien May 21 2003, 11:22 PM

ups :huh: :unsure:



ono kaj me trenutno muci je sljedece. Imam neke stranice sa dijalozima (vilenjackim) i I, II, III filma. Fino na vilenjackon pa na engl. Jos i slikice tu i tamo da se vidi koji je dio filma u pitanju,. Dosta je iz EEDVD FOTR. Stvar je u tom kaj se moze skinut wav.file pa cujes kako se govori. Ma skroz je super, ja bila odusevljena time. Pogotovo dio kad Haldir pozdravlja Legolasa u Lorienu :wub: prekrasno..... mogu stavit te textove ak vas zanima ali kaj je sa wav,fileom? Stvar je u tom da bi trebalo dati link a ja ga nemrem napravit jer on jednostavno meni to ocitava sa kompa i neznam kak da to ozivim!! Jle ima koji nacin da vam to dam ak ocete? Mislim, po meni zvuk je super. A ima i kad pjevaju elbereth :wub: :wub:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 21 2003, 11:27 PM

Stavi textove, a za wav vidi na Yahoo. Znas uploadati fileove? Sa svog kompjutera na server? Ma daj, vec je vrijeme da se prikacis tamo, nije komplicirano. Antocjo ce ti odgovorit mogu li se i takvi fajlovi dizati, sigurno ce povirit ovdje.

Ali sto ce ti zvuk kad ih imas u filmu??? :puzzled: :huh:
Posted by: luthien May 21 2003, 11:29 PM

RÍANNA

by Vicente Velasco (Tatyandacil)


Namárië, Ríanna vanima, Heriméla!
Antanelyë men melmë ar alassë,
ar renuvammet oialë.
Namárië, Ríanna vanima, Ardalótë!
Coacalinalya firnë ve lícuma súrinen,
nó melmemma len úva firë indommassen.
Namárië, Ríanna vanima, Indotári!
Sí wila Númenna rámainen laurië,
ar nai fëalya seruva oialmaressë

Translation by Helge K. Fauskanger:

Farewell, beautiful Princess, loving lady!
You gave us love and joy,
and we will remember them forever.
Farewell, beautiful Princess, Flower of the Realm!
The light of your house died like a candle in the wind,
but our love for you will not die in our hearts.
Farewell, beautiful Princess, Queen of Hearts!
Now fly into the West on golden wings,
and may your soul rest in eternal bliss.


mislim da je na Quenyi. NIsam ziher. Inace lik koji ju je preveo detaljno objasnjava svaku rijec kako i zasto...a Rianna po tom znaci:
Ríanna I have translated "princess"; it is the Quenya cognate (constructed by Vicente from primitive rîg-anna, LR:383) of Sindarin rían "queen", but also alluding to the name Diana itself. Indeed Quenya r is sometimes derived from Primitive Elvish d (though not initially as here); otherwise, the normal Quenya word for "princess" is aranel.

samo za primjer i uvod... :D :D

Edited by luthien t on May 21 2003, 10:55 PM
Posted by: luthien May 21 2003, 11:37 PM

zat kaj nemam EE DVD FOTR! a i nekad si metnem u Winamp medu pjesmice pa slusam...uzivam u jeziku. dvd mi je na kompu pa nemrem sve odjednom a i neda mi se pustat cijeli film zbog par vilenjackih dijaloga. Osim tog, wav je samo za FOTR. :D evo stici ce!!
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 21 2003, 11:40 PM

Prekrasna je. :)
Ali jedan prijedlog - napisi ispod koji je jezik. Ima nekih koji ne razlikuju bas Q i S, pa da se ne bi dogodilo, ako imaju rjecnike, da traze pogresno.
Znam jednog pocetnika koji je bijesan prerosto Q rjecnik i nije mogao naci nesto za sto je tek nakon 4 sata shvatio da je S... :rolleyes: Ali to je bilo davno...

Eh, da, ima li netko negdje ono sto Saruman govori kada salje oblake na Caradhras? Zvucalo je savrseno... kao i sve sto Christopher Lee govori :wub: - da ga samo cujete u dodacima kad objasnjava sto su Gandalf i Saruman... za zaljubit se :wub:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 21 2003, 11:42 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- i neda mi se pustat cijeli film zbog par vilenjackih dijaloga. -----------------------------
:cry: :o :o :-O

:nosila: :nosila: :nosila:
Posted by: luthien May 21 2003, 11:47 PM

evo FOTR

Elrond speaks with Aragorn next to Gilraen's grave in Rivendell.

Elrond: Anirne hene beriad i chen in.
Ned Imladris nauthant e le beriathar aen.

She wanted to protect her child.
She thought in Rivendell you would be safe.


Haldir greets the Fellowship on the fleets of Lothlorien

Haldir: Mae govannen, Legolas Thranduilion.
Legolas: Govannas vin gwennen le, Haldir o Lorien.
Haldir: A Aragorn in Dunedain, istannen le ammen.

Haldir : Well meet, Legolas son of Thranduil.
Legolas: Our Fellowship is in your dept, Haldir of Lorien.
Haldir: Oh, Aragorn of the Dunedain, you [are] known to us.


Aragorn discusses with Haldir what to do high above the ground on the fleets of Lorien.

Aragorn: Boe ammen i veriad lin.
Aragorn: Andelu i ven.
...
Aragorn: Merin le telim.
Aragorn: Henio, aniron boe ammen i dulu lin.
Andelu i ven.

Celeborn: Le aphadar aen.

You are being thacked.


Galadriel's farewell to Aragorn in Lorien.

Galadriel: Am meleth din. I ant e guil Arwen Undomiel pelitha.

Aragorn: Aniron i e broniatha ar [...] periatham [...] amar hen. Aniron e ciratha na Valannor.

Galadriel: Namarie.

Galadriel: Nadath na i moe cerich. Dan, u-'eveditham, Elessar.


Galadriel: For her love. I fear the grace of Arwen Undomiel will diminish.

Aragorn: I would have her leave these shores and be with her people. I would have her take the ship to Valinor.

Galadriel: Farewell.
There is much you have yet to do. Though... We shall not meet again, Elessar.

the Elves singing on their way to the Grey Havens

the Elves:
A Galad ven i reniar
hi 'aladhremmin ennorath
A Elbereth Gilthoniel
ithil na thul, ithil lin hen

O light to us who wander
here [amid the] world [of] woven trees
A Elbereth Gilthoniel
clear is [thy] breath, clear your eye

Aragorn singing the Lay of Leithian

Aragorn:
Tinuviel elvanui
Elleth alfirin edhelhael
O hon ring finnil fuinui
A renc gelebrin thiliol...

Tinuviel elvenfair
Immortal maiden elven-wise
About him cast [her] night-dark hair
and arms like silver-glimmering...
Posted by: luthien May 21 2003, 11:51 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Eh, da, ima li netko negdje ono sto Saruman govori kada salje oblake na Caradhras? Zvucalo je savrseno... kao i sve sto Christopher Lee govori :wub:  - da ga samo cujete u dodacima kad objasnjava sto su Gandalf i Saruman... za zaljubit se :wub: -----------------------------
mislim da sam cula to!!! On je fenomenalan glumac :wub: . Covjek ima 70-ak god i ravan je ko svijeca, pravi gospon. Znas li da je on upoznao Tolkiena :wub: :wub: !!! Ko mladic bio je u Oxfordu ili onom drugom u nekom pubu sa frendovima i tamo je bio TOL. I da cita LOTR svake god ponovo i ponovo!! Volim ga skroz, fenomenalan je. Kak se ono veli...na vrhu jezika mi je. joooj!!! daaa!!!! markantan je!!!

Edited by luthien t on May 21 2003, 10:57 PM
Posted by: luthien May 21 2003, 11:57 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- i neda mi se pustat cijeli film zbog par vilenjackih dijaloga. -----------------------------
:cry: :o :o :-O

:nosila: :nosila: :nosila: -----------------------------
zvucalo je gore ngo kaj sam mislila!!!! :huh: :( :D :D
Posted by: luthien May 22 2003, 12:09 AM

Legolas, Aragorn and Gilmi find the burned-out pile of Uruk-hai corpses.
Legolas prays for the souls of Pippin and Merry.

Legolas:
Hiro hyn hidh ab 'wannath...

Find peace after death...


Sensing Galdalv the White in Fangorn forest.
Legolas: Nad no ennas.
Aragorn: Man cenich.

Legolas: Something is out there
Aragorn: What do you see?

A wounded Aragorn dreams about Arwen Evenstar.
Aragorn: Minlu pedich nin i aur hen telitha.
Arwen: U i vethed... na i onnad. Boe bedich go Frodo. Han bad lin.
Aragorn: Dolen i vad o nin.
Arwen: Si peliannen i vad na dail lin. Si boe u-dhannathach.
Aragorn: Arwen.
Arwen: Ae u-esteliach nad... estelio han. Estelio ammen.


Aragorn: You told me once... this day would come.
Arwen: This is not the end... it is the beginning. You must go with Frodo. It is your path.
Aragorn: My path is hidden from me.
Arwen: It is already laid before your feet. You cannot falter now.
Aragorn: Arwen.
Arwen: If you trust nothing else... trust this... trust us.

Aragorn talking with Arwen in his flashback before they leave Rivendell
Aragorn: Edra le men, men na gui ethwel .... Haer o auth a nir a naeth.

Aragorn: A path opens to you, a path to another life. Away from war... grief... dispair.

Elrond speaking to Arwen in Rivendell
Elrond: Tollen i lu. I chair gwannar na Vallanor. SI bado, no cirar.
Elrond: The ships are sailing for Valinor. Go now, before they sail.

Elrond: Ah im, u-'erin veleth lin?
Arwen: Gerich veleth nin, ada.


Elrond: Do I not also have your love?
Arwen: You have my love, dad.

Aragorn reaches Helm's Deep on his horse, Brego.
Aragorn: Mae carnen, Brego, mellon nin.
Aragorn: Well done, Brego, my friend.

Before the battle of Helm's Deep and Aragorn arrives.
Legolas [to Aragorn]: Le abdollen.
Legolas [to Aragorn]: You're late

then Legolas gives Aragorn the Evenstar jewel, which he lost during the last battle.
Aragorn: Hannon le.
Aragorn: I thank you.


Legolas looks around at the Rohirrim prepering for battle.
Legolas: Boe a hyn neled herain dan caer menig!
Aragorn: Si beriathar hyn ammaeg na ned Edoras.
Legolas: Aragorn, nedin dagor hen u-'erir ortheri. Natha daged dhaer!


L: And they should be... Three hundred against ten thousand!
A: Here they will defend themselves better here than at Edoras.
L: They cannot win this fight. There will be a great carnage!


Afterwords Legolas aproches Aragorn and appologizes for despairing.
Aragorn: U-moe edaved, Legolas.
A: There is nothing to forgive, Legolas.

Haldir arrives at Helm's Deep.
Aragorn: Mae govannen, Haldir.
Aragorn: Welcome, Haldir


Battle Commands at Helm's Deep.
Sinse there where many Elvish soldiers at the Batlle of Helm's Deep [in the movie], there where loads of Sindarin lines to be found here. Some are incomplete, sinse it's hard to hear what is being said.

1. Aragorn [to the army]: A Eruchin, u-dano i faelas a hyn an uben tanatha le faelas.
Aragorn [to the army]: oh Children of Eru, show no mercy to them, for no-body will show you mercy.


2. Legolas [to his fellow archers]: Faeg i-varv din na lanc a nu ranc!
Legolas [to his...]: Their armour is weak at the neck... and beneath the arm.


3. Aragorn [to army]: Dartho!
Aragorn [to army]: Hold!/Wait!


4. Aragorn [to army]: Leithio i philinn!
Aragorn [to army]: Release the arrows!


5. Aragorn [to army]: Pendraid!
Aragorn [to army]: Ladders!


6. Aragorn [to Legolas]: Dago han! Dago han, Legolas! Dago han!
Aragorn [to Legolas]: Kill it! Kill it, Legolas! Kill it!
(he's talking about the orc)

7. Aragorn [to army]: Hado i philinn!
Aragorn [to army]: Hurl the arrows!


8. Aragorn [to army]: Herio!
Aragorn [to army]: Charge!


9. Aragorn [to army]: Am Marad! Am Marad! Haldir, am Marad!
Aragorn [to army]: To the Tower! To the Tower! Haldir, to the Tower!
6. Aragorn [to Legolas]: Dago han! Dago han, Legolas! Dago han!

Aragorn [to Legolas]: Kill it! Kill it, Legolas! Kill it!
(he's talking about the orc)

Posted by: luthien May 22 2003, 12:12 AM

ROTK

Arwen speaks to an old King Aragorn Elessar who is dying.
[After the War of the Ring].


Arwen: Law, Hir nin. U-dollen i Rhiw. Anirach, nui lu, gwannad uin gwaith lin?

Arwen: No, my lord. Winter has not yet come. Do you wish, before the time, to leave your people?

Elrond's Farewell

Elrond: I Aear can ven 'Namar'.:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: (tuuuuzno. nezelim to ni vidjeti...)

E: The Sea calls us 'Farwell'.

Posted by: antocjo May 22 2003, 08:44 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- mogu stavit te textove ak vas zanima ali kaj je sa wav,fileom? Stvar je u tom da bi trebalo dati link a ja ga nemrem napravit jer on jednostavno meni to ocitava sa kompa i neznam kak da to ozivim!! Jle ima koji nacin da vam to dam ak ocete? -----------------------------
Možeš mi poslati link pa da izvidim situaciju, jer bilo bi šteta trpati na Yahoo, ako to veæ postoji na web-u :unsure:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 22 2003, 09:41 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- mislim da sam cula to!!! On je fenomenalan glumac :wub: . Covjek ima 70-ak god i ravan je ko svijeca, pravi gospon. Znas li da je on upoznao Tolkiena :wub: :wub: !!! Ko mladic bio je u Oxfordu ili onom drugom u nekom pubu sa frendovima i tamo je bio TOL. I da cita LOTR svake god ponovo i ponovo!! Volim ga skroz, fenomenalan je. Kak se ono veli...na vrhu jezika mi je. joooj!!! daaa!!!! markantan je!!! -----------------------------
On ima preko osamdeset godina - i za vrijeme snimanja je izludjivao glumce tjerajuci ih na pravilan izgovor, stalno ih je ispravljao.

Ono dolje, u popisu za TTT ( Battle comands)- mislim da To the keep nije Am Marad - ako me sjecanje ne vara, ovako na brzinu i samo letimicno, kula je BARAD.
Provjerit cu... :P
Posted by: Gomil May 22 2003, 09:43 AM

E ljudi. Kad vec pisete to bilo bi dobro da providite i prevod. Makar na engleski da svi razumijemo.

Jel vi kuzite kaj to sve znaci i oce rijet.
Posted by: luthien May 22 2003, 10:25 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- E ljudi. Kad vec pisete to bilo bi dobro da providite i prevod. Makar na engleski da svi razumijemo.

Jel vi kuzite kaj to sve znaci i oce rijet. -----------------------------
ne kuzim te. kaj da prevedemo? pa ima prevoda... :huh:
Posted by: luthien May 22 2003, 10:40 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- mislim da sam cula to!!!  On je fenomenalan glumac :wub: . Covjek ima 70-ak god i ravan je ko svijeca, pravi gospon. Znas li da je on upoznao Tolkiena :wub:  :wub: !!! Ko mladic bio je u Oxfordu ili onom drugom u nekom pubu sa frendovima i tamo je bio TOL. I da cita LOTR svake god ponovo i ponovo!! Volim ga skroz, fenomenalan je. Kak se ono veli...na vrhu jezika mi je. joooj!!! daaa!!!! markantan je!!! -----------------------------
On ima preko osamdeset godina - i za vrijeme snimanja je izludjivao glumce tjerajuci ih na pravilan izgovor, stalno ih je ispravljao.

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da znam!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: ma on mi je pojam. Taj covjek totalno zraci, a njegov glas i nacin govora...jooooj!!!!
sad si me sjetio, citala sam kako su lingvisti na filmu zelenili zbog tih krivih izgovora. Ekipa za snimanje nije se bas trudila sa naglascima: evo citiram:

Lists of correct pronunciations werw drawn up, as Jack (glavni lingvist il tak nekaj) points out, it was not easy to get a vast number of people working on the film to laern - and remember - how to say all the names correctly: " Whenever anyone - the director, the producers, the technicians - mentioned a name, they would do it on their own, unique way which was usually not how the actor had now been told to do it! We had an awful lot of "Gondolfs" and no end of people saying, "Le-golass"! So someone would (correctly) ask: "Sholud Legolas be standing here?" and back would come the answer:"No, Le-golass sholud be over there." We were fighitng a battle the entire time!"

koja koma, zamisli lude opaljene lingvidste, zaljubljene u te jezike kako slusaju te izgovore...da poludis!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: A Lee ima je ocito pomagao...ima snimka di objasnjava da nije Tioden nego Teoden, ne Gondolf nego Gandalf...nama slavenima je laske, uz malo znanja enlg. lako mozemo svladati izgovor. Ti amerikanci nemogu naglasiti Borrromir, npr..
Posted by: Gomil May 22 2003, 12:16 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- E ljudi. Kad vec pisete to bilo bi dobro da providite i prevod. Makar na engleski da svi razumijemo.

Jel vi kuzite kaj to sve znaci i oce rijet. -----------------------------
ne kuzim te. kaj da prevedemo? pa ima prevoda... :huh: -----------------------------
Jeeeee. Vidim prevod, jeeee. :huh:

Ma ima prevoda, no da se ne zalomi da ne kuzimo. Kusis?

Huh, forget it. Upetljo sam se.

:huh: :bonk:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel May 22 2003, 09:00 PM

Galadriel:I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen, han mathon ne chae a han noston ned 'wilith
'The world is changed; I can feel it in the water, I can feel it in the earth, I can smell it in the air.'


Elrond: Tangado haid! Leithio i philinn!
'Hold [your] positions! Fire the arrows!' [no subtitles]


Arwen: Frodo, im Arwen. Telin le thaed.Lasto beth nîn... Tolo dan na ngalad
'Frodo, I am Arwen - I've come to help you. Hear my voice... Come back to the light.'


Aragorn: Dartho guin Beriain. Rych le ad tolthathon. Arwen: Hon mabathon. Rochon ellint im. Aragorn: Andelu i ven. Arwen: Frodo fîr. Ae athradon i hîr, tûr gwaith nîn beriatha hon. Aragorn: Be iest lîn.
Aragorn:'Stay with the Hobbits - I will send horses for you.' Arwen: 'I'm the faster rider - I'll take him.' Aragorn:'The road is too dangerous' Arwen: 'If I can get accross the river the power of my people will protect him.' Arwen: 'According to your wish' [no subtitle given]


Arwen:Ingon i athrad dammen beriathar aen.(DVD)
'I guess the ford will be held against us'


Arwen: Noro lim, Asfaloth, noro lim!
'Ride fast, Asfaloth, ride fast!' [no subtitles given]


Arwen:Nîn o Chithaeglir lasto beth daer; Rimmo nîn Bruinen dan in Ulaer!
'Waters of the Misty Mountains listen to the great word; flow waters of Loudwater against the Ringwraiths!' [no subtitles given]


Elrond:Frodo, lasto beth nîn, tolo dan na ngalad
'Frodo, hear my voice, come back to [the] light.' [no subtitles given]


Elrond:Anirne hene beriad i chên în. Ned Imladris nauthant e le beriathar aen.(DVD)
'She wanted to protect her child. She thought in Rivendell you would be safe.'


Arwen: A si i-Dhúath ú-orthor, Aragorn. Arwen: Ú or le a ú or nin. Arwen: Renich i lú i erui govannem? Aragorn: Nauthannen i ned ôl reniannen. Arwen: Gwennin in enninath... Arwen: Ú-'arnech in naeth i si celich. Arwen: Renich i beth i pennen?
Arwen:'The Shadow does not hold sway yet' [Lit. 'Till now the Shadow not masters, Aragorn.'] Arwen:'Not over you and not over me.' Arwen:'Do you remember the time when we first met?' Aragorn:'I thought I had strayed into a dream' Arwen: 'Long years have passed...' Arwen: 'You did not have the cares you carry now.' Arwen:'Do you remember the word I told you?'


Aragorn: 'Havo dad, Legolas'
'Sit down, Legolas'


Gandalf:Losto Caradhras, sedho, hodo, nuitho i 'ruith!
'Sleep Caradhras, be still, lie still, hold [your] wrath' [no subtitles given]


Gandalf:Annon Edhellen edro hi ammen. Fennas Nogothrim lasto beth lammen.(Only last sentence from the DVD)
'Gate of the Elves open now for me.' 'Doorway of the Dwarf-folk listen to the word of my tongue.' [no subtitles given]


Haldir: Mae govannen, Legolas Thranduilion. Legolas: Govannas vîn gwennen le, Haldir o Lórien. Haldir: A Aragorn in Dúnedain istannen le ammen.(DVD)
Haldir: 'Welcome Legolas, son of Thranduil.' Legolas: 'Our Fellowship stands in your debt, Haldir of Lórien' Haldir: 'Aragorn of Dúnedain, you are known to us.'


Aragorn: Haldir o Lórien. Henio, aníron, boe ammen i dulu lîn. Boe ammen veriad lîn.
'Haldir from Lórien.' 'Understand, I wish [i.e. please, understand!], we need you support [lit. it is necessary to us your help].' 'We need your protection' [Lit. 'it is needed to us your protection']


Celeborn:Le aphadar aen.(DVD)
'You are being followed'


Galadriel: Am meleth dîn. I ant e guil Arwen Undómiel pelitha. Aragorn: Aníron i e broniatha ar i periatham natha methed ned amar hen. Aníron e ciratha na Valannor. Galadriel: Namárië Galadriel: Nadath nâ i moe cerich. Dan, ú-'eveditham, Elessar.(DVD)
Galadriel:'For her love. I fear the grace of Arwen Evenstar will diminish.' [lit. 'The gift of life of Arwen will fade'] Aragorn:'I would have her leave these shores and be with her people. I would have her take the ship to Valinor.' Galadriel:Farewell Galadriel:'There is much you have yet to do. We shall not meet again, Elessar.'
Posted by: luthien May 22 2003, 09:28 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- E ljudi. Kad vec pisete to bilo bi dobro da providite i prevod. Makar na engleski da svi razumijemo.

Jel vi kuzite kaj to sve znaci i oce rijet. -----------------------------
ne kuzim te. kaj da prevedemo? pa ima prevoda... :huh: -----------------------------
Jeeeee. Vidim prevod, jeeee. :huh:

Ma ima prevoda, no da se ne zalomi da ne kuzimo. Kusis?

Huh, forget it. Upetljo sam se.

:huh: :bonk: -----------------------------
ahaaa!!! :bonk: :bonk: to samo upozoravas :slap: !!

Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 23 2003, 02:52 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Galadriel:I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen, han mathon ne chae a han noston ned 'wilith
'The world is changed; I can feel it in the water, I can feel it in the earth, I can smell it in the air.'


'wilith - gwilith




Arwen: Frodo, im Arwen. Telin le thaed.Lasto beth nîn... Tolo dan na ngalad
'Frodo, I am Arwen - I've come to help you. Hear my voice... Come back to the light.'

na ngalad - nan galad


Aragorn: Dartho guin Beriain. Rych le ad tolthathon. Arwen: Hon mabathon. Rochon ellint im. Aragorn: Andelu i ven. Arwen: Frodo fîr. Ae athradon i hîr, tûr gwaith nîn beriatha hon. Aragorn: Be iest lîn.
Aragorn:'Stay with the Hobbits - I will send horses for you.' Arwen: 'I'm the faster rider - I'll take him.' Aragorn:'The road is too dangerous' Arwen: 'If I can get accross the river the power of my people will protect him.' Arwen: 'According to your wish' [no subtitle given]

Arwen: 'According to your wish' - to je Aragornovo






Arwen:Nîn o Chithaeglir lasto beth daer; Rimmo nîn Bruinen dan in Ulaer!
'Waters of the Misty Mountains listen to the great word; flow waters of Loudwater against the Ringwraiths!'

Chithaeglir - Hith Aeglir






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Ovo je samo nekoliko sitnica za koje sam siguran... bolje ispraviti na pocetku nego poslije plakati... B)
Posted by: elrond May 23 2003, 10:10 AM

"Hi erin ná i anor hílo an le, ná pathro na vereth a glinn".
"Carlyë merculuma sáva?"

Translation from Quenya:

"Do you want some orange juice?"

znam da smo genijalci, ali poradi glede(malog mede),
par pojmova, možda nekom bude korisno
Naneth (mother) [NAN-eth]

Adar (father) [AD-are]

Muindor (brother) [moo-IN-dor]

Muinthel (sister) [moo-IN-thel]

Herven (husband) [HAIR-ven]

Herves (wife) [HAIR-ves]

Iôn (son) [YONE]

Iell (daughter) [YELL]

Posted by: elrond May 23 2003, 10:20 AM

"Holo i fen" Close the door
"Pado i chû." Walk the dog
"Melich Hîr uin Gyr?" do you love Lord of the Rings?
san svake elfice, ili bar, potisnuta žudnja
Rîs beleg o Numenor im I am a great queen of Numenor
"Ae anírach hon, tolo a mabo hon."
If you want him, come and take him.",mislim da znate tko je to i gdje rekao?


Edited by elrond on May 23 2003, 10:03 AM
Posted by: elrond May 23 2003, 10:28 AM

Lle naa haran e'nausalle You are a king in your imagination
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:

Elbereth beriatha le aen, aen elenath tîn sila ned lyn(d) o chuia dîn
original 'May Elbereth protect you, may her stars shine on the paths of your life'

Edited by elrond on May 23 2003, 10:07 AM
Posted by: elrond May 23 2003, 10:36 AM

vaše cijenjeno elvish name
:hah: :hah:
(URL: http://www.chriswetherell.com/elf/Default.asp)

a, može i hobbit name,(klik na link &footer/podnožje

Edited by elrond on May 23 2003, 09:37 AM
Posted by: nimrodel May 23 2003, 10:40 AM

Elronde,rekli smo da treba i prijevod stavit :eureka:
Posted by: nimrodel May 23 2003, 10:47 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- vaše cijenjeno elvish name
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:booyah: :booyah: :booyah:
Da se ponovno predstavim.Ja sam Eamane...iliti Blamblerose. :D :D :D :D
Posted by: elrond May 23 2003, 10:49 AM

isto, što i u prethodnom linku, samo proširena verzija,
(URL: http://www.lotruk.com/nametranslator/index.html)
Posted by: elrond May 23 2003, 10:53 AM

Which character in The Lord of the Rings is most like you?
personality test, malo zabave kog zanima
(URL: http://www.lotruk.com/personalitytest/index.html)

Edited by elrond on May 23 2003, 09:53 AM
Posted by: nimrodel May 23 2003, 10:55 AM

Joj,koliko imena ...u ovoj verziji sam Elioclya <_< kao vila. :bonk: :bonk:
Posted by: elrond May 23 2003, 10:55 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Elronde,rekli smo da treba i prijevod stavit :eureka: -----------------------------
dobro, kad si navalila, odoh ja na "edit"
Posted by: antocjo May 23 2003, 10:59 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- vaše cijenjeno elvish name
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:booyah: :booyah: :booyah:
Da se ponovno predstavim.Ja sam Eamane...iliti Blamblerose. :D :D :D :D -----------------------------
A vidi što je meni izbacio: Beren Isilrá :D
Posted by: nimrodel May 23 2003, 11:01 AM

Ajde,pa to vec na nesto slici :hah: :hah: :ph34r:
Posted by: elrond May 23 2003, 11:28 AM

In Galadriel's song when the Company leaves Lórien
ar ilyë tier undulávë lumbulë
"and all paths are drowned deep in shadow"
i falmarinnar imbë met, ar hísië
"...on the foaming waves between us, and mist..."
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien
"Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come"

Posted by: elrond May 23 2003, 11:36 AM

text in Quenya: Cirion's oath to Eorl from Unfinished Tales:
klikom na link

[URL=Vanda sína termaruva Elenna-nóreo alcar enyalien, ar Elendil Vorondo voronwe. Nai tiruvantes i hárar mahalmassen mi Númen, ar i Eru i or ilye mahalmar ea tenn'oio. ]Vanda sína termaruva Elenna-nóreo alcar enyalien, ar Elendil Vorondo voronwe. Nai tiruvantes i hárar mahalmassen mi Númen, ar i Eru i or ilye mahalmar ea tenn'oio. [/URL](URL: http://www.dcs.ed.ac.uk/misc/local/TolkLang/pronlo/pronguide.html)

Edited by elrond on May 23 2003, 10:36 AM
Posted by: elrond May 23 2003, 11:45 AM

za one koje više interesira Tolkien&jezici, te reagiranje,
društva u kom je stvarao, pogledajte ovdje
(URL: http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/vice.htm)
Posted by: elrond May 23 2003, 11:47 AM

QENYA LEXICON
(URL: http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/qlindex2.htm)
Posted by: elrond May 23 2003, 11:53 AM

Ai! laurië lantar lassi súrinen,
Ah! like gold fall the leaves in the wind,
yéni únótimë ve rámar aldaron!
long years numberless as the wings of trees!
Yéni ve lintë yuldar avánier
The long years have passed like swift draughts
mi oromardi lissë-miruvóreva
of the sweet mead in lofty halls
Andúnë pella, Vardo tellumar
beyond the West, beneath the blue vaults of Varda
nu luini yassen tintilar i eleni
wherein the stars tremble
ómaryo airetári-lírinen.
in the voice of her song, holy and queenly.
Sí man i yulma nin enquantuva?
Who now shall refill the cup for me?

An sí Tintallë Varda Oiolossëo
For now the Kindler, Varda, the Queen of the stars,
ve fanyar máryat Elentári ortanë
from Mount Everwhite has uplifted her hands like clouds
ar ilyë tier undulávë lumbulë
and all paths are drowned deep in shadow;
ar sindanóriello caita mornië
and out of a grey country darkness lies
i falmalinnar imbë met,
on the foaming waves between us,
ar hísië untúpa Calaciryo míri oialë.
and mist covers the jewels of Calacirya for ever.
Sí vanwa ná, Rómello vanwa, Valimar!
Now lost, lost to those of the East is Valimar!
Namárië! Nai hiruvalyë Valimar!
Farewell! Maybe thou shalt find Valimar!
Nai elyë hiruva! Namárië!
Maybe even thou shalt find it! Farewell!



Posted by: antocjo May 23 2003, 02:38 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Which character in The Lord of the Rings is most like you?
personality test, malo zabave kog zanima
(URL: http://www.lotruk.com/personalitytest/index.html) -----------------------------
a ovdje mi je izbacio: Gandalf :rolleyes:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel May 23 2003, 10:06 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- Galadriel:I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen, han mathon ne chae a han noston ned 'wilith
'The world is changed; I can feel it in the water, I can feel it in the earth, I can smell it in the air.'


'wilith  - gwilith




Arwen: Frodo, im Arwen. Telin le thaed.Lasto beth nîn... Tolo dan na ngalad
'Frodo, I am Arwen - I've come to help you. Hear my voice... Come back to the light.'

na ngalad  - nan galad


Aragorn: Dartho guin Beriain. Rych le ad tolthathon. Arwen: Hon mabathon. Rochon ellint im. Aragorn: Andelu i ven. Arwen: Frodo fîr. Ae athradon i hîr, tûr gwaith nîn beriatha hon. Aragorn: Be iest lîn.
Aragorn:'Stay with the Hobbits - I will send horses for you.' Arwen: 'I'm the faster rider - I'll take him.' Aragorn:'The road is too dangerous' Arwen: 'If I can get accross the river the power of my people will protect him.' Arwen: 'According to your wish' [no subtitle given]

Arwen: 'According to your wish'  - to je Aragornovo






Arwen:Nîn o Chithaeglir lasto beth daer; Rimmo nîn Bruinen dan in Ulaer!
'Waters of the Misty Mountains listen to the great word; flow waters of Loudwater against the Ringwraiths!'

Chithaeglir - Hith Aeglir






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Ovo je samo nekoliko sitnica za koje sam siguran... bolje ispraviti na pocetku nego poslije plakati... B) -----------------------------
ne krivite mene,to je copy-paste bez provjere :ph34r:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 23 2003, 10:25 PM

Joooj, nitko te ne krivi, i ja cu imati gresaka. To je normalno :kissplus:


Ovo bi se moglo svidjeti vecem dijelu foruma : Zdravo Marijo na sindarinu :eureka: - ali morat cu je tipkati jer nemam na kompu, pa nece biti pokojeg naglaska.


Ai Meri, meleth -phant,
Hir ah-le; daethannen im bessath phain
a daethannen iaf e -huvech -Iesus.

Aer Meri, Eru -odhril,hero ammen reagdain
si a ned lu e-gurthem.

Tanc
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 23 2003, 10:41 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Ai! laurië lantar lassi súrinen,
         Ah! like gold fall the leaves in the wind,
         yéni únótimë ve rámar aldaron!
         long years numberless as the wings of trees!
         Yéni ve lintë yuldar avánier
         The long years have passed like swift draughts
         mi oromardi lissë-miruvóreva
         of the sweet mead in lofty halls
         Andúnë pella, Vardo tellumar
         beyond the West, beneath the blue vaults of Varda
         nu luini yassen tintilar i eleni
         wherein the stars tremble
         ómaryo airetári-lírinen.
         in the voice of her song, holy and queenly.
         Sí man i yulma nin enquantuva?
         Who now shall refill the cup for me?

         An sí Tintallë Varda Oiolossëo
         For now the Kindler, Varda, the Queen of the stars,
         ve fanyar máryat Elentári ortanë
         from Mount Everwhite has uplifted her hands like clouds
         ar ilyë tier undulávë lumbulë
         and all paths are drowned deep in shadow;
         ar sindanóriello caita mornië
         and out of a grey country darkness lies
         i falmalinnar imbë met,
         on the foaming waves between us,
         ar hísië untúpa Calaciryo míri oialë.
         and mist covers the jewels of Calacirya for ever.
         Sí vanwa ná, Rómello vanwa, Valimar!
         Now lost, lost to those of the East is Valimar!
         Namárië! Nai hiruvalyë Valimar!
         Farewell! Maybe thou shalt find Valimar!
         Nai elyë hiruva! Namárië!
         Maybe even thou shalt find it! Farewell! -----------------------------
Znam da je sad ovo ogromno, ali bolje da su sva tri jezika na okupu, nego da morate traziti naokolo.
Ovo je Galadriel's Lament na sindarinskom - Elrondova je ona iz knjige, to je Quenyja. Buduci da opet tipkam, ne da mi se pisati i prijevod, dolje vam je.

[B]Nae! Be-vall dannar lais na-hul,
inath arnediad bin revail gelaidh!
Inath 'wannanner be yllath gelig e miruvor velui
ned bair erchail athan Annun,
di -rynd luin Elbereth ias elenath thiliar
na -glir lam din aer a brand.

Man adbannatha hi ylf anim?

Dan hi Elbereth Gilthoniel orthant cammad in od Uilos
bin fain a duath dadlemmir lonnath phain
a fuir eth thindor caeda na falvath immmen tad
a hith doba mirath e Cirith Galad an-uir

Gwannen si Dor Belain, gwannen o Rhun!
Navaer! Dor Belain hirithar aen allen.
Allen hirithar aen. Navaer!

Edited by Valarauco ramainen on May 23 2003, 09:41 PM
Posted by: elrond May 23 2003, 11:47 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- Which character in The Lord of the Rings is most like you?
personality test, malo zabave kog zanima
(URL: http://www.lotruk.com/personalitytest/index.html) -----------------------------
a ovdje mi je izbacio: Gandalf :rolleyes: -----------------------------
moje ime(po generatoru)
Elrohir Eärfalas
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 24 2003, 10:05 AM

I ja sam Gandalf po karakteru :lukavi: - koja uvreda za jednog Balroga...

Da sam Hobbit, bio bih Cluryan Greenhand
da sam Orc, bio bih Vrogdish
:puzzled:

i da sam Elf, bio bih Mywiel... zvuci zensko... :ph34r:

a najblizi kafic bi mi bio The Giant's Nose... :silly:
Posted by: elrond May 24 2003, 12:17 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- Ai! laurië lantar lassi súrinen,
         Ah! like gold fall the leaves in the wind,
         yéni únótimë ve rámar aldaron!
         long years numberless as the wings of trees!
         Yéni ve lintë yuldar avánier
         The long years have passed like swift draughts
         mi oromardi lissë-miruvóreva
         of the sweet mead in lofty halls
         Andúnë pella, Vardo tellumar
         beyond the West, beneath the blue vaults of Varda
         nu luini yassen tintilar i eleni
         wherein the stars tremble
         ómaryo airetári-lírinen.
         in the voice of her song, holy and queenly.
         Sí man i yulma nin enquantuva?
         Who now shall refill the cup for me?

         An sí Tintallë Varda Oiolossëo
         For now the Kindler, Varda, the Queen of the stars,
         ve fanyar máryat Elentári ortanë
         from Mount Everwhite has uplifted her hands like clouds
         ar ilyë tier undulávë lumbulë
         and all paths are drowned deep in shadow;
         ar sindanóriello caita mornië
         and out of a grey country darkness lies
         i falmalinnar imbë met,
         on the foaming waves between us,
         ar hísië untúpa Calaciryo míri oialë.
         and mist covers the jewels of Calacirya for ever.
         Sí vanwa ná, Rómello vanwa, Valimar!
         Now lost, lost to those of the East is Valimar!
         Namárië! Nai hiruvalyë Valimar!
         Farewell! Maybe thou shalt find Valimar!
         Nai elyë hiruva! Namárië!
         Maybe even thou shalt find it! Farewell! -----------------------------
Znam da je sad ovo ogromno, ali bolje da su sva tri jezika na okupu, nego da morate traziti naokolo.
Ovo je Galadriel's Lament na sindarinskom - Elrondova je ona iz knjige, to je Quenyja. Buduci da opet tipkam, ne da mi se pisati i prijevod, dolje vam je.

[B]Nae! Be-vall dannar lais na-hul,
inath arnediad bin revail gelaidh!
Inath 'wannanner be yllath gelig e miruvor velui
ned bair erchail athan Annun,
di -rynd luin Elbereth ias elenath thiliar
na -glir lam din aer a brand.

Man adbannatha hi ylf anim?

Dan hi Elbereth Gilthoniel orthant cammad in od Uilos
bin fain a duath dadlemmir lonnath phain
a fuir eth thindor caeda na falvath immmen tad
a hith doba mirath e Cirith Galad an-uir

Gwannen si Dor Belain, gwannen o Rhun!
Navaer! Dor Belain hirithar aen allen.
Allen hirithar aen. Navaer! -----------------------------
A bene dictis ad bene facta haud facile iter=od dobrih rijeèi do dobrih djela nije lak put. :ph34r:
Posted by: elrond May 24 2003, 12:23 PM

hm, izlazi ovako <_< ,
If you were a Hobbit, your name would be Periabo Oddfoot
and if you were a (male) Man, your name would be Deonnyn
and if you were an Elf, your name would be Celithrandil
and if you were a Dwarf, your name would be Segnar
and if you were an Orc, your name would be Hodush
Your nearest Tavern might be called The Eye of the Specter
and your sword would be called Dulcatis

Posted by: luthien May 24 2003, 06:17 PM

kakva su vam to imena? dosla sam na brzaka i vidim da svi pricate o imenima...ja bi... di sta kuda kako?
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 24 2003, 10:17 PM

Gore, i na prosloj stranici su ti linkovi za to - personality test i your elvish name - samo ispunis. :D
Posted by: elrond May 24 2003, 11:07 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- kakva su vam to imena? dosla sam na brzaka i vidim da svi pricate o imenima...ja bi... di sta kuda kako? -----------------------------
joj, bakice, èitaj ranije postove, na prošloj strani (ne ljuti se neda mi se opet linkati) :no:
Posted by: Anuviel May 25 2003, 12:44 AM

If you were a Hobbit, your name would be Nycla Darnswool
and if you were a (female) Man, your name would be Keindra
and if you were an Elf, your name would be Belaraniel
and if you were a Dwarf, your name would be Dilyan
and if you were an Orc, your name would be Hiol
Your nearest Tavern might be called The Singing Dwarf
and your sword would be called Glamthaus


eto sta mi ispade....a i Belaraniel i nije tako lose :blush:
Posted by: Anuviel May 25 2003, 12:49 AM

a kao karakter sam ispala najslicnija Legolasu...yesss :booyah:
Posted by: elrond May 25 2003, 03:29 PM

:devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Cowardly dog(s) "Nadorhuan(rim)"

Go kiss an orc "Auta miqula orqu"

You disgust me "Amin feuya ten' lle"

You smell like a human "Lle holma ve' edan"

Your head is empty "Dolle naa lost"



You're ugly and your mother dresses you funny
"Llie n'vanima ar' lle atara lanneina"
:thumbup: :thumbup:

Edited by elrond on May 25 2003, 02:29 PM
Posted by: luthien May 25 2003, 03:35 PM

ma tih testova sam se narjesavala. vec sam prije par mjeseci to tu spominjala..ali ja ocito uvijek prerano djelujem.. :nemanpojma: .
Ja sam vam ispala uvijek i u svim testovima Legolas. u nekom testu za to kojem si glumcu po karakteru najslicniji ispala sam Viggo...U ME zivjela bi u Lothlorienu...jednom ispadoh Galadriel...
A tko je ovaj lik: Barliman Butterbur ? ispalo mi je da sam slicna njemu i Merryu :nemanpojma:

Elrond ducisa draga...citaj i ti postove, napisala sam da sam dosla na brzaka sto znaci nemam vremena gledat liknove. Zanimalo me samo ukratko sta je to :neener: :neener:

He he, moram vam ovo napisat, bit cu malo zlobna :lukavi: :lukavi: !!! Rjesavala sam s radagastom testove koju rasu volis. Kao na koju se vrstu palis...sad meni ispalo elfovi (nis cudno...) ali radagastu su ispali orci!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: aaahahaha!!!! kakvu je posranu facu slozio!!! : :silly: No dobro, dobroo, ispao je i da je carobnjak!!! (da se ne naduri!!!!)

Edited by luthien t on May 25 2003, 02:37 PM
Posted by: elrond May 25 2003, 06:27 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ma tih testova sam se narjesavala. vec sam prije par mjeseci to tu spominjala..ali ja ocito uvijek prerano djelujem.. :nemanpojma: .
Ja sam vam ispala uvijek i u svim testovima Legolas. u nekom testu za to kojem si glumcu po karakteru najslicniji ispala sam Viggo...U ME zivjela bi u Lothlorienu...jednom ispadoh Galadriel...
A tko je ovaj lik: Barliman Butterbur ? ispalo mi je da sam slicna njemu i Merryu :nemanpojma:

Elrond ducisa draga...citaj i ti postove, napisala sam da sam dosla na brzaka sto znaci nemam vremena gledat liknove. Zanimalo me samo ukratko sta je to :neener: :neener:

He he, moram vam ovo napisat, bit cu malo zlobna :lukavi: :lukavi: !!! Rjesavala sam s radagastom testove koju rasu volis. Kao na koju se vrstu palis...sad meni ispalo elfovi (nis cudno...) ali radagastu su ispali orci!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: aaahahaha!!!! kakvu je posranu facu slozio!!! : :silly: No dobro, dobroo, ispao je i da je carobnjak!!! (da se ne naduri!!!!) -----------------------------
zanima te, "samo ukratko" a nemaš vremena :devil: :devil: a znaš da znatiželja, ne poznaje, "nemam vremena"(znam po sebi <_< ),
radgastu :rofl: :rofl: pa nije se ništ' pohvalio,
...obzirom da je(IMAGE: http://www.la-tierra-media.com/imagenes/esdla4/radagast.min.jpg), možda mu orci trebaju,... :rofl: :rofl: :rolleyes: ma znaš veæ na što mislim :jumpy: :rofl: :rofl:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel May 25 2003, 08:08 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- A tko je ovaj lik: Barliman Butterbur ? ispalo mi je da sam slicna njemu i Merryu :nemanpojma: -----------------------------
:o neznas za naseg jecmenka maslovara? ;)
Posted by: elrond May 25 2003, 08:19 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ma tih testova sam se narjesavala. vec sam prije par mjeseci to tu spominjala..ali ja ocito uvijek prerano djelujem.. :nemanpojma: .
Ja sam vam ispala uvijek i u svim testovima Legolas. u nekom testu za to kojem si glumcu po karakteru najslicniji ispala sam Viggo...U ME zivjela bi u Lothlorienu...jednom ispadoh Galadriel...
A tko je ovaj lik: Barliman Butterbur ? ispalo mi je da sam slicna njemu i Merryu :nemanpojma:

Elrond ducisa draga...citaj i ti postove, napisala sam da sam dosla na brzaka sto znaci nemam vremena gledat liknove. Zanimalo me samo ukratko sta je to :neener: :neener:

He he, moram vam ovo napisat, bit cu malo zlobna :lukavi: :lukavi: !!! Rjesavala sam s radagastom testove koju rasu volis. Kao na koju se vrstu palis...sad meni ispalo elfovi (nis cudno...) ali radagastu su ispali orci!!!! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: aaahahaha!!!! kakvu je posranu facu slozio!!! : :silly: No dobro, dobroo, ispao je i da je carobnjak!!! (da se ne naduri!!!!) -----------------------------
Barliman Butterbur -birtaš kod "Propetog Ponija i Gandov frend
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel May 25 2003, 08:26 PM

elrond citaj postove,ja sam vec napisala
Posted by: nimrodel May 26 2003, 10:16 AM

Ja ispala najslicnija Merryju :D :D ...ima nesto u tome :rofl: :rofl: :neener:
Posted by: nimrodel May 26 2003, 10:21 AM

evo ostatka...
and if you were a (female) Man, your name would be Mireclya
and if you were an Elf, your name would be Elioclya
and if you were a Dwarf, your name would be Cleall
and if you were an Orc, your name would be Vrirbag
Your nearest Tavern might be called The Zoo
and your sword would be called Trithcatis


:luuuud: ne znam koje bi ime prije izabrala :silly: :silly: ,a zoo mi je stvarno blizu,pravi zoo :P :P
Posted by: elrond May 26 2003, 04:33 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- elrond citaj postove,ja sam vec napisala -----------------------------
kaj si još ljuta? :rolleyes:, ponekad i ja doðem, kao luthien, "na brzaka", pa ne èitam sve postove,
tebi se takvo što ne dogaða? :rolleyes:

Edited by elrond on May 26 2003, 03:35 PM
Posted by: luthien May 26 2003, 09:37 PM

aa zooo!!! dakle ja sam kao Jecmenko? :angry: necu!!! al dobro u dugih 5 sam legolas...
Posted by: luthien May 27 2003, 08:15 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- Which character in The Lord of the Rings is most like you?
personality test, malo zabave kog zanima
(URL: http://www.lotruk.com/personalitytest/index.html) -----------------------------
a ovdje mi je izbacio: Gandalf :rolleyes: -----------------------------
moje ime(po generatoru)
Elrohir Eärfalas -----------------------------
ja ispala Aragorn :huh:
Posted by: luthien May 27 2003, 08:18 AM

i jos...

If you were a Hobbit, your name would be Caessa Rafter
and if you were a (female) Man, your name would be Lariren
and if you were an Elf, your name would be Férith
and if you were a Dwarf, your name would be Merwrka
and if you were an Orc, your name would be Eralo
Your nearest Tavern might be called The Silver Oak Inn
and your sword would be called Gomdurol

ko su svi ti? Super mi je ova tavernica...
Posted by: elrond May 27 2003, 05:25 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- Which character in The Lord of the Rings is most like you?
personality test, malo zabave kog zanima
(URL: http://www.lotruk.com/personalitytest/index.html) -----------------------------
a ovdje mi je izbacio: Gandalf :rolleyes: -----------------------------
moje ime(po generatoru)
Elrohir Eärfalas -----------------------------
ja ispala Aragorn :huh: -----------------------------
:booyah: :booyah: , a ni jednom ti nije ispalo Alemperka? :D
sorry, to ti je iz "Hrvatskih mitova i legendi". B)
Posted by: elrond May 27 2003, 05:36 PM

....oko imena, rasa,.pogledajte :hah:
(URL: http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Tower/1312/elfnames.html)
Posted by: luthien May 27 2003, 09:44 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- Which character in The Lord of the Rings is most like you?
personality test, malo zabave kog zanima
(URL: http://www.lotruk.com/personalitytest/index.html) -----------------------------
a ovdje mi je izbacio: Gandalf :rolleyes: -----------------------------
moje ime(po generatoru)
Elrohir Eärfalas -----------------------------
ja ispala Aragorn :huh: -----------------------------
:booyah: :booyah: , a ni jednom ti nije ispalo Alemperka? :D
sorry, to ti je iz "Hrvatskih mitova i legendi". B) -----------------------------
gggggrrrrrrrrrrrr :angry:
to ti provociras, a? moje ime ne zvuci glupo znas??!!! Da Alemperka :silly: :silly: !!! koma...
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 28 2003, 12:53 AM

Sam sam sebe zakacio s onim pitanjem o prijevodu Sarumanove dernjave na oblake, i nisam to mogao izbaciti iz glave, pa sam vrsljao naokolo i napokon nasao... :luuuud: :luuuud:
ovako ide:
Cuivo nwalca Carnirasse. Nai yarvaxea rasselya tultuva notto - carinnar.
Aha!!! Prepoznajete? Ja bas i ne, osim Carnirasse, i ovaj kraj - notto carinnar. Te dvije stvari jasno cujem kako izgovara, cujem mu glas i sad dok ih citam. Koji naglasak... :wub: Koja dikcija :wub: :rolleyes:

A prijevod bi bio, po smislu, ne exact: Wake up cruel Redhorn. May your bloodstained horn fall on the enemy's heads.

Covjek bi pomislio da je nesto prozaicnije... :bonk: :blink:


Usput, :flaming: ovo je ljubazna molba da s vratimo na jezike - ne kazem da ovo s imenima nema veze, ipak je prijevod na nesto, ali ipak... samo se igrate :whistling:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 28 2003, 12:57 AM

I daur thuio a i'waew thlossa ned i thar and.

The forest breathes and the wind whispers in the long grass.

Ova mi je prekrasna... :wub:
Posted by: luthien May 28 2003, 06:26 AM

daj Val stavi jos takvih recenica ak nades i svi ostali. Ja bi mozda neku iskoristila :wub: . O bilo cemu...ova sauma je predivna :wub: :wub: :wub:
Zna li mozda netko od vas pisati te jezike? Runama?

p.s. Val, to zadnje je Sindarin il Quenya?
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel May 28 2003, 03:42 PM

ja znam pomalo pisati runama...
Posted by: elrond May 28 2003, 04:28 PM

Quenya poem

RÍANNA

Namárië, Ríanna vanima, Heriméla!
Antanelyë men melmë ar alassë,
ar renuvammet oialë.
Namárië, Ríanna vanima, Ardalótë!
Coacalinalya firnë ve lícuma súrinen,
nó melmemma len úva firë indommassen.
Namárië, Ríanna vanima, Indotári!
Sí wila Númenna rámainen laurië,
ar nai fëalya seruva oialmaressë.

Farewell, beautiful Princess, loving lady!
You gave us love and joy,
and we will remember them forever.
Farewell, beautiful Princess, Flower of the Realm!
The light of your house died like a candle in the wind,
but our love for you will not die in our hearts.
Farewell, beautiful Princess, Queen of Hearts!
Now fly into the West on golden wings,
and may your soul rest in eternal bliss.

:blush:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 28 2003, 09:17 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- daj Val stavi jos takvih recenica ak nades i svi ostali. Ja bi mozda neku iskoristila :wub: . O bilo cemu...ova sauma je predivna :wub: :wub: :wub:
Zna li mozda netko od vas pisati te jezike? Runama?

p.s. Val, to zadnje je Sindarin il Quenya? -----------------------------
Sindarin. Sorry, zaboravio sam.

Gospo Elenna, kako si ucila pisati? S neta, ili iz knjige? Ja se sjecam (davno) svojih pocetaka, isao sam po vratima Morie i skidao slovo po slovo, pa usporedjivao s dodacima, pa micao razlike, pa... komplicirano... :ph34r:
I onda sam sve zaboravio. :puzzled:
Posted by: Nienor Niniel May 28 2003, 09:30 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- vaše cijenjeno elvish name
:hah: :hah:
(URL: http://www.chriswetherell.com/elf/Default.asp)

a, može i hobbit name,(klik na link &footer/podnožje -----------------------------
ja sam na elviskom Nessa of Nargothrond

a n moje hobit-ime je Ruby Hornblower of Waymoot

:wub: :wub:

a najbolje je sta je mene jedno pol godine drzalo da odem promjenit ime u rubi B)
Posted by: Nienor Niniel May 28 2003, 09:43 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Eh, da, ima li netko negdje ono sto Saruman govori kada salje oblake na Caradhras?
-----------------------------
ja imadem na kompu

Cuiva nwalca Carnirassë! Nai yarvaxëa rasselya taltuva ñotto-carinnar!

Wake up cruel Redhorn! May your blood-stained horn shall fall upon the enemy-heads!
:kissplus:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 28 2003, 10:12 PM

Gospo Nienor, sjecas li se kako sam bio jako neuljudan prema tebi prije nekog vremena i optuzio te da ne citas postove? Ma grozno, je li? :rolleyes: Sjecas se toga? :whistling:

Znas, kraj imena topica u popisu ti je onaj mali plavi kvadratic sa strelicom, on te odvede direktno na onaj post koji nisi citala. Znaci, ne kliknes samo zadnju stranicu topica, jer se dogodi koji put da ima novih stvari i stranicu prije... :whistling:

:booyah: :neener: :neener: :hah: O:)
Posted by: Nienor Niniel May 29 2003, 01:14 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Gospo Nienor, sjecas li se kako sam bio jako neuljudan prema tebi prije nekog vremena i optuzio te da ne citas postove? Ma grozno, je li? :rolleyes: Sjecas se toga? :whistling:

Znas, kraj imena topica u popisu ti je onaj mali plavi kvadratic sa strelicom, on te odvede direktno na onaj post koji nisi citala. Znaci, ne kliknes samo zadnju stranicu topica, jer se dogodi koji put da ima novih stvari i stranicu prije... :whistling:

:booyah: :neener: :neener: :hah: O:) -----------------------------
sad sam tek procitala cijeli topic

ak se mozda ne sjecas, ja sam se ispricala kaj me nije bilo dugo na forumu, a kad sam dosla, ovaj topic mi je bio nov!! kuzis? i onda sam isla citat od pocetka i kad sam dosla na negdje cetvrtu str, jos niko nije stavio, pa sam misla da niko to nema il tak nesto :ph34r: svejedno, ispricavam se :ph34r: :ph34r:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel May 29 2003, 02:05 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Gospo Elenna, kako si ucila pisati? S neta, ili iz knjige? Ja se sjecam (davno) svojih pocetaka, isao sam po vratima Morie i skidao slovo po slovo, pa usporedjivao s dodacima, pa micao razlike, pa... komplicirano... :ph34r:
I onda sam sve zaboravio. :puzzled: -----------------------------
ccc... a sve ti lijepo pise u dodacima :rolleyes:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel May 29 2003, 08:50 PM

jel zna neko prijevod one pjesme koju pjevaju dok frodo i sam izlaze iz dvorane u rivendellu (A Elbereth Gilthoniel)? :blink:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 29 2003, 09:43 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- Gospo Elenna,  kako si ucila pisati? S neta, ili iz knjige? Ja se sjecam (davno) svojih pocetaka, isao sam po vratima Morie i skidao slovo po slovo, pa usporedjivao s dodacima, pa micao razlike, pa... komplicirano... :ph34r:
I onda sam sve zaboravio. :puzzled: -----------------------------
ccc... a sve ti lijepo pise u dodacima :rolleyes: -----------------------------
<_< Precizan ubod maca, my lady... dobro ciljanje... :P ...zasluzio sam to. :bonk:

Za pjesmu cu pogledati, malo sam u stisci s vremenom...
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel May 29 2003, 09:45 PM

ma np,nije hitno.mozes mi i u nedjelju izrecitirati :whistling:
Posted by: luthien May 29 2003, 10:16 PM

elrond, kaj nisam ja stavila tu pjesmu? :blink: sad imamo 2 iste...ili si toliko odusevljen njome.. :wub:
Posted by: elrond May 30 2003, 04:46 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- elrond, kaj nisam ja stavila tu pjesmu? :blink: sad imamo 2 iste...ili si toliko odusevljen njome.. :wub: -----------------------------
gdje :puzzled:
Posted by: luthien May 30 2003, 09:34 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- RÍANNA

by Vicente Velasco (Tatyandacil)

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na prvoj stranici... e elrond elrond...!!!!! :D :D
Posted by: Nienor Niniel May 30 2003, 11:18 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- jel zna neko prijevod one pjesme koju pjevaju dok frodo i sam izlaze iz dvorane u rivendellu (A Elbereth Gilthoniel)? -----------------------------
mislis na ovo

A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon

O Elbereth Starkindler, white-glittering, sparkling like jewels, the glory of the starry host slants down.
Having gazed far away from the tree-woven lands of Middle-earth, to thee, Everwhite, I will sing, on this side of the Sea, here on this side of the Ocean
:rolleyes:
Posted by: Nienor Niniel May 30 2003, 11:25 AM

quenya, elrond,
Nai tiruvantel ar varyuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilya.
May the Valar protect you on your path under the sky.

quenya, gandalf's moria gate spell, FotR
Ando Eldarinwa a lasta quettanya, Fenda Casarinwa!
Gate of Elves listen to my word, Threshold of Dwarves!

malo gimlija iz FotR

ovo je zapravo samo imitacija khuzdul-a, nekakve moplitve valjda
Kilmin malur ni zaram kalil ra narag. Kheled-zâram ... Balin tazlifi.

Ishkhaqwi ai durugnul.
znaci nesto kao: Plaque upon your-necks.

Posted by: Nienor Niniel May 30 2003, 11:31 AM

black speech, sauron's army cry (govore orci), TT
Za dashu snaku Zigur, Durbgu nazgshu, Durbgu dashshu!
Hail, Sauron, Lord (of the) Ring, Lord (of the) Earth

rohirric, aragorn i brego, mozda se pojavi u extanded version TT
Stille nú, fæste... Hwæt nemnað ðe?
Be quiet now, fast... What is your name?

rohirric, gandalf on théodred's grave, TT
Westu hál. Ferðu, Théodred, Ferðu.
Be-thou well. Go-thou, Théodred, go-thou.

rohirric, battle cry, TT
Forð Eorlingas!
Forth Eorlingas!

P.S. sindairske dijaloge i sl iz filmova ste sve stavili??




Posted by: nimrodel May 30 2003, 01:40 PM

Mislim da da.Negdi tamo na prvim stranicama :rolleyes:
Posted by: elrond May 30 2003, 03:50 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- jel zna neko prijevod one pjesme koju pjevaju dok frodo i sam izlaze iz dvorane u rivendellu (A Elbereth Gilthoniel)? :blink: -----------------------------
"Povratak Kralja" str.339
(URL: http://www.ax.boudicca.de/guild/aetheria/godmonth/god_elbereth.html)

Edited by elrond on May 30 2003, 02:52 PM
Posted by: elrond May 30 2003, 04:07 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- RÍANNA

by Vicente Velasco (Tatyandacil)

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na prvoj stranici... e elrond elrond...!!!!! :D :D -----------------------------
istina... :yes: :yes: u pravu si :eureka:
:slap: :slap: tako mi zrakomlata u prahu, u pravu si :whistling:
Posted by: Nienor Niniel May 30 2003, 08:24 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- jel zna neko prijevod one pjesme koju pjevaju dok frodo i sam izlaze iz dvorane u rivendellu (A Elbereth Gilthoniel)? :blink: -----------------------------
"Povratak Kralja" str.339
(URL: http://www.ax.boudicca.de/guild/aetheria/godmonth/god_elbereth.html) -----------------------------
eh, eh, eh
:band:
mogu rec - odgovorila sma prva!! :neener: :neener: ko sad ne cita postove (noting prsonal, elronde, moram se iskalit na nekom :bonk: )


P.S. ovo bi trabala bit elbereth??
(IMAGE: http://www.ax.boudicca.de/guild/aetheria/godmonth/elbereth1.jpg)
bogati, al je lepa B)
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel May 30 2003, 08:46 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- jel zna neko prijevod one pjesme koju pjevaju dok frodo i sam izlaze iz dvorane u rivendellu (A Elbereth Gilthoniel)? -----------------------------
mislis na ovo

A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon

O Elbereth Starkindler, white-glittering, sparkling like jewels, the glory of the starry host slants down.
Having gazed far away from the tree-woven lands of Middle-earth, to thee, Everwhite, I will sing, on this side of the Sea, here on this side of the Ocean
:rolleyes: -----------------------------
:jumpy:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 30 2003, 09:13 PM

"reklo bi se da si pogodila..."
:whistling:
Posted by: Nienor Niniel May 30 2003, 09:17 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- "reklo bi se da si pogodila..."
:whistling: -----------------------------
eh, sta ces.... imamo i mi ljudi svojih kvaliteta :yes:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 31 2003, 11:50 PM

Gospo Nienor, meni se bas ta tvoja signatura svidja :P - prevedi je na sindarin, i pun pogodak!!! :booyah: :jumpy:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel May 31 2003, 11:53 PM

za nienorinu signaturu:
tiro!el eria e mor.
i lir en el luthia l'uren
:whistling: ;)

Edited by Elenna Alaniel on May 31 2003, 10:53 PM
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen May 31 2003, 11:54 PM

Nisi fer!!! Prevedi mi! :ph34r:
Posted by: Anuviel May 31 2003, 11:58 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- za nienorinu signaturu:
tiro!el eria e mor.
i lir en el luthia l'uren
:whistling: ;) -----------------------------
Look! A star rises out of the darkness
The song of the star enchants my heart :whistling: :whistling:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:00 AM

look!the star rises out of the darkness.
song of the star enches my hart

sta nisi ti vec rekao da si to preveo? :huh: ili je to bilo za nesto drugo? :ph34r:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:01 AM

anuviel me preduhitrila... <_<
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 1 2003, 12:03 AM

Za nesto drugo - ono sto Arwen govori Aragornu prije gaza.
Hvala... ;)

Jel vi to znate napamet?! :huh: :o To je bilo brzo, Anuviel... :blink:
Posted by: Anuviel Jun 1 2003, 12:07 AM

:neener: :neener: :neener: to ti je tak kad slusas cd pa znas vec sve napamet... :bonk: :bonk:

salim se samo...omot je ispred mene :blush:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:08 AM

da...znam sve pjesme sa soundtracka :rolleyes:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:09 AM

opet je brza.... <_<
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 1 2003, 12:10 AM

Sram je bilo! Predlazem da zaurlas:You shall not pass!!! :luuuud: :luuuud:
Posted by: Anuviel Jun 1 2003, 12:11 AM

THE PROPHECY
The Seer Speaks

Yenillor morne
tulinte I quettar
tercano nuruva

Hlasta! Qyetes
Hfirimain:

The Ringspell...


Prijevod:
...
Out of the Black Years
come the words
the Hearld of Death

Listen-it speaks to
those who were not born to die
...
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:19 AM

to je jedina koju neznam :ph34r: ali jednina... :unsure: kad jos nikad nisam uspjela skuzit da ju pjevaju <_< cujem neko mumljanje ali nemogu razabrat rijeci :angry:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 1 2003, 12:21 AM

A o kojem vi to soundtracku govorite? Ja nemam pojma o tim tekstovima!!!

Donesite mi sutra da vidim! :huh:
Posted by: Anuviel Jun 1 2003, 12:26 AM

e val , pa to ti je na originalnom omotu soundtracka za FOTR :shocking: :shocking:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:26 AM

:o pa o lotr-u!znaci jos i to treba dodati na popis ;)
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:28 AM

...a... ...n... ...u... ...v... ...i... ...e... ...l... ........
:ljut: :ljut: :ljut:
odsad vise ne postam dok ne vidim anuvielin post! <_<
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 1 2003, 12:28 AM

Ja sam tek prije koji tjedan dobio preprzeni, bez omota... :cry:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 1 2003, 12:30 AM

OBJE se gurate! :angry: I stalno ste obje istovremeno na istome! Ajde sad jedna u Ostalo, jedna u Film, i tek kad provjerite u View complete list, onda se chendjajte!! SIC!!!
Posted by: Anuviel Jun 1 2003, 12:31 AM

imam osjecaj da je vrijeme da se povucem, jer bih sutra mogla nastradat.... :neener: :neener: :neener:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:33 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Ja sam tek prije koji tjedan dobio preprzeni, bez omota... :cry: -----------------------------
a jadan ti :( sutra ce ti teta elorien donjeti omot... :P
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:34 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- imam osjecaj da je vrijeme da se povucem, jer bih sutra mogla nastradat.... :neener: :neener: :neener: -----------------------------
hehehe... :D gle stvarno pa i ti sutra dolazis... :lukavi:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 1 2003, 12:34 AM

Mozes bit mirna, prvo ide Antocjo na paviljon, onda gospa Luthien... a ako vidi ovu signaturu prije sastanka, ja bih lako mogao biti treci... :ph34r: - bit ce mrkla noc dok stignemo do Tolkien's-a
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 1 2003, 12:36 AM

OPET OBJE!!! OPET OBJE!!!

NA PAVILJON!!! :flaming: :flaming: :flaming:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:36 AM

mozemo mi to produziti i na ponedjeljak,nema problema... O:)
Posted by: Anuviel Jun 1 2003, 12:36 AM

pa da, to sam i zaboravila...dok vi njih budete obradjivali ja cu lagano nestat... :neener: :neener:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:37 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- OPET OBJE!!! OPET OBJE!!!

NA PAVILJON!!! :flaming: :flaming: :flaming: -----------------------------
:puzzled:
Posted by: Anuviel Jun 1 2003, 12:39 AM

hm val a sto bi s nama na paviljonu...isto citat poglavlja iz LOTR-a i Silma :neener: :neener: :neener:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:41 AM

sto se mene tice moze :D
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 1 2003, 12:42 AM

:huh: Ne znam... ali Antocju se nije svidjelo, a gospa Luthien je na to rekla, citiram: Ne mene na paviljon :no: , ne, ne.

Sad sam se zamislio... i vi ste se takodjer trebale preplasiti, je li? <_< Porazgovarat cu s ostalima sutra...
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 1 2003, 12:43 AM

:wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash: :wallbash:
Posted by: Anuviel Jun 1 2003, 12:45 AM

nije ti uspjelo zastrasivanje....nas dvije se ne bojimo mocnog Balroga :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:47 AM

kad smo nas 2 jos mocnije kad se udruzimo :D GIRL POWER!! :rofl:
Posted by: Anuviel Jun 1 2003, 12:54 AM

LAMENT FOR GANDALF

Quenya

A Olorin i yaresse
Mentaner i Numeherui
Tirien i Romenori
Maiaron i Oiosaila
Manan elye etevanne
Norie i melanelye?

Olorin, who once was...
Sent by the Lords of the West
To guard the lands of the East
Wisest of all Maiar
What drove you to leave
That which you loved?

Sindarin
Mithrandir, Mithrandir, A Randir Vithren
u-reniathach i amar galen
I reniad lin ne mor, nuithannen
In gwidh ristennin, i fae narchannen
I lach Anor ed ardhon gwannen
Caled veleg, ethuiannen.

Mithrandir, Mithrandir, O Pilgrim Grey
no more will you wander the green fields of this earth
Your yourney has ended in darkness.
The bonds cut, the spirit broken
The Flame of Anor has left this World
a great light, has gone out.


Posted by: Anuviel Jun 1 2003, 12:55 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- kad smo nas 2 jos mocnije kad se udruzimo :D GIRL POWER!! :rofl: -----------------------------
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 12:59 AM

When the cold of winter comes
starless night will cover day
in the meeling of the sun
we will walk in bitter rain

but in dreams
I can hear youre name
and in dreams
we will meet again

when the seas and mountins fall
and we come to end of days
in the dark I hear a call
calling me there
i will go there
and back again
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 1 2003, 01:00 AM

e, ovu znam... :yes:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 01:05 AM

:D

Aniron

O mor henio i dhu
Ely siriar,el sila.
Ai!Aniron Undomiel...

Tiro!El eria e mor.
I lir en el luthia l'uren.
Ai!Aniron...
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 1 2003, 01:06 AM

Zar Aniron ne znaci: please? :huh:
Posted by: Anuviel Jun 1 2003, 01:07 AM

to si moja sekica i ja popevamo doma za svoju dusu... :rofl: :rofl:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 01:08 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Zar Aniron ne znaci: please? :huh: -----------------------------
ne... I desire
Posted by: Anuviel Jun 1 2003, 01:08 AM

ne vise kao ceznja ili tako nesto

Ah desire Evenstar
Posted by: Anuviel Jun 1 2003, 01:09 AM

ups...sorry preduhitrila si me :kissplus:
Posted by: Anuviel Jun 1 2003, 01:11 AM

narode odoh ja...vidimo se sutra

joooj....jedva cekam :jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 1 2003, 01:12 AM

hehe :devil:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 1 2003, 01:15 AM

:bye: :bye: :bye:
Pozdrav podocnjacima...ukoro cu i ja, malo uzgajati svoje... :booyah:
Posted by: elrond Jun 1 2003, 06:15 PM

Black Speech

Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul,
ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul

One ring to rule them all, one ring to find them,
one ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them
Posted by: luthien Jun 2 2003, 01:13 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Mozes bit mirna, prvo ide Antocjo na paviljon, onda gospa Luthien... a ako vidi ovu signaturu prije sastanka, ja bih lako mogao biti treci... :ph34r: - bit ce mrkla noc dok stignemo do Tolkien's-a -----------------------------
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: reko mi je radagast da moram do njega prije nego kaj jrenemo jer moram vidit nekaj. Bila sam toliko uporna i tvrdoglava da sam udpjela izvuc samo da se radi o valovoj signaturi...dodoh, vidjeh i aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacemu, zasto, cemu, zasto, cemu, zasto...
ti s izlocest balrog :( :ljut: !!!!

Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 2 2003, 10:27 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ti s izlocest balrog :( :ljut: !!!! -----------------------------
:rofl:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 2 2003, 11:07 PM

:hah: O:)

Vi ste zloceste...zaboravile ste mi dati omot s tekstovima... :shocking:
...oliti, ja sam ga zaboravio uzeti... :ph34r:
Posted by: luthien Jun 2 2003, 11:16 PM

:blink: omot?textovi?
Posted by: Anuviel Jun 3 2003, 12:37 AM

E Balroze....svladava te starost pomalo he he :devil:

a sta ti nije Elenna dala omot sa tekstovima...

a imala sam ih i mislila sam da ti ih je ona dala :wallbash:

drugi put ih donesem :whistling:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 3 2003, 06:21 AM

ccc...jos sam ti ih stavila ispred tebe na stol a ti nista.mislila sam da nisi zainteresiran pa sam ih uzela nazad :nemanpojma: ma dobis ih iduci tjedan ak hoces :booyah:
Posted by: elrond Jun 3 2003, 11:08 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- :bye: :bye: :bye:
Pozdrav podocnjacima...ukoro cu i ja, malo uzgajati svoje... :booyah: -----------------------------
...tko bi odolio,
podoènjaci kao gusjenice
takav je posao
mi smo se snašli
sigurni smo za kruh
i konzerve
moraš piti
to je takav život
i doma je u gostima
ima dvije strane
koje olakšavaju laži i žene

danas dobro izgledam
mulj se osušio
gladak od lizanja
priznajem dobro sam
i kad me pitaju dobro sam:
posao utjeèe na narav
Pavlek Tomislav author, da ne zaboravim :yes:
Posted by: Nienor Niniel Jun 3 2003, 11:59 AM

:rofl:
Posted by: Alynna of Ithilien Jun 4 2003, 02:29 AM

evo vam da malo proširite svoje rjeènike ;) samo da vas odmah upozorim,nema naglasaka.

Food:
apsa - cooked meat
masta - bread
sava - juice
lis - honey
yaye - fruit
pore - meal
culuma - orange
coimas - lembas
tyuru - cheese

Some common adjectives:
mara - useful
raica - wrong
ulca - evil
halla - tall
anda - long
sinta - short
alta - great
ura - large
vinya - new
nessa - young
cuina - alive
qualin - dead

Time:
lu - occasion
lume - time,hour
vanwie - the past
ara - dawn
anarore - sunrise
loa - year
asta - month

Seasons:coire - stirring,early spring
tuile - budding - late spring
laire - summer
yavie - early autumn
quelle - late autumn
hrive - winter

Architecture:
ataque - building
coa - house
ando - gate
fenda - treshhold
sambe - room
topa - roof
talan - floor
ramba - wall
mindo - tower
osto - city

Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jun 4 2003, 10:30 AM

:o kak to da pod arhitecture nema fleta? :lukavi:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 4 2003, 08:37 PM

...a talana...? :huh:

Ah, cjepidlacimo, a ovo je jako korisno :booyah: - hvala, lady Alynna...
:jumpy: :jumpy: :jumpy:
Posted by: elrond Jun 16 2003, 05:55 PM

Galadriel:I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen, han mathon ne chae a han noston ned 'wilith
'The world is changed; I can feel it in the water, I can feel it in the earth, I can smell it in the air.'


Elrond: Tangado haid! Leithio i philinn!
'Hold [your] positions! Fire the arrows!'


Arwen: Frodo, im Arwen. Telin le thaed.Lasto beth nîn... Tolo dan na ngalad
'Frodo, I am Arwen - I've come to help you. Hear my voice... Come back to the light.'


Aragorn: Dartho guin Beriain. Rych le ad tolthathon. Arwen: Hon mabathon. Rochon ellint im. Aragorn: Andelu i ven. Arwen: Frodo fîr. Ae athradon i hîr, tûr gwaith nîn beriatha hon. Aragorn: Be iest lîn.
Aragorn:'Stay with the Hobbits - I will send horses for you.' Arwen: 'I'm the faster rider - I'll take him.' Aragorn:'The road is too dangerous' Arwen: 'If I can get accross the river the power of my people will protect him.' Arwen: 'According to your wish'

Edited by elrond on Jun 16 2003, 04:56 PM
Posted by: elrond Jun 16 2003, 05:56 PM

Arwen:Ingon i athrad dammen beriathar aen.(DVD)
'I guess the ford will be held against us'


Arwen: Noro lim, Asfaloth, noro lim!
'Ride fast, Asfaloth, ride fast!'


Arwen:Nîn o Chithaeglir lasto beth daer; Rimmo nîn Bruinen dan in Ulaer!
'Waters of the Misty Mountains listen to the great word; flow waters of Loudwater against the Ringwraiths!'


Elrond:Frodo, lasto beth nîn, tolo dan na ngalad
'Frodo, hear my voice, come back to [the] light.'


Elrond:Anirne hene beriad i chên în. Ned Imladris nauthant e le beriathar aen.(DVD)
'She wanted to protect her child. She thought in Rivendell you would be safe.'


Arwen: A si i-Dhúath ú-orthor, Aragorn. Arwen: Ú or le a ú or nin. Arwen: Renich i lú i erui govannem? Aragorn: Nauthannen i ned ôl reniannen. Arwen: Gwennin in enninath... Arwen: Ú-'arnech in naeth i si celich. Arwen: Renich i beth i pennen?
Arwen:'The Shadow does not hold sway yet' [Lit. 'Till now the Shadow not masters, Aragorn.'] Arwen:'Not over you and not over me.' Arwen:'Do you remember the time when we first met?' Aragorn:'I thought I had strayed into a dream' Arwen: 'Long years have passed...' Arwen: 'You did not have the cares you carry now.' Arwen:'Do you remember the word I told you?'



Posted by: elrond Jun 16 2003, 05:59 PM



Aragorn: 'Havo dad, Legolas'
'Sit down, Legolas'


Gandalf:Losto Caradhras, sedho, hodo, nuitho i 'ruith!
'Sleep Caradhras, be still, lie still, hold [your] wrath'


Gandalf:Annon Edhellen edro hi ammen. Fennas Nogothrim lasto beth lammen.(Only last sentence from the DVD)
'Gate of the Elves open now for me.' 'Doorway of the Dwarf-folk listen to the word of my tongue.'


Haldir: Mae govannen, Legolas Thranduilion. Legolas: Govannas vîn gwennen le, Haldir o Lórien. Haldir: A Aragorn in Dúnedain istannen le ammen.(DVD)
Haldir: 'Welcome Legolas, son of Thranduil.' Legolas: 'Our Fellowship stands in your debt, Haldir of Lórien' Haldir: 'Aragorn of Dúnedain, you are known to us.'


Aragorn: Haldir o Lórien. Henio, aníron, boe ammen i dulu lîn. Boe ammen veriad lîn.
'Haldir from Lórien.' 'Understand, I wish [i.e. please, understand!], we need you support [lit. it is necessary to us your help].' 'We need your protection' [Lit. 'it is needed to us your protection']


Celeborn:Le aphadar aen.(DVD)
'You are being followed'


Galadriel: Am meleth dîn. I ant e guil Arwen Undómiel pelitha. Aragorn: Aníron i e broniatha ar i periatham natha methed ned amar hen. Aníron e ciratha na Valannor. Galadriel: Namárië Galadriel: Nadath nâ i moe cerich. Dan, ú-'eveditham, Elessar.(DVD)
Galadriel:'For her love. I fear the grace of Arwen Evenstar will diminish.' [lit. 'The gift of life of Arwen will fade'] Aragorn:'I would have her leave these shores and be with her people. I would have her take the ship to Valinor.' Galadriel:Farewell Galadriel:'There is much you have yet to do. We shall not meet again, Elessar.'
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Jun 16 2003, 09:22 PM

Ne mogu se sjetiti da je u DVD Arwen rekla da ce ford biti drzan against them... :ph34r: - pa nije mi valjda to promaklo :huh: . Elronde, jesi li ti gledao EEDVD? Sjecas li se ti je li to rekla?
Posted by: elrond Jun 17 2003, 07:17 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Ne mogu se sjetiti da je u DVD Arwen rekla da ce ford biti drzan against them... :ph34r: - pa nije mi valjda to promaklo :huh: . Elronde, jesi li ti gledao EEDVD? Sjecas li se ti je li to rekla? -----------------------------
o yes, više :jumpy: :crazy: puta, a i opet æu, èim uhvatim prvu priliku.
svi dijalozi su ti iz specijalnog produženog DVD izdanja "FoTr-a". :yes: :yes:
Posted by: Eowyn Jul 1 2003, 10:01 PM

Prouèava li netko od vas mordorski?
:exl:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Jul 1 2003, 10:05 PM

:unsure:

:nemanpojma:

al to bi bilo zanimljivo.mozda jednog dana kad naucim queniski pocnem i black speach :whistling:
Posted by: elrond Jul 3 2003, 12:02 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Prouèava li netko od vas mordorski?
:exl: -----------------------------
za sebe, odgovor je :no:
Posted by: Eowyn Jul 3 2003, 12:29 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- Prouèava li netko od vas mordorski?  
 :exl: -----------------------------
za sebe, odgovor je :no: -----------------------------
Steta.... Meni je zao samo sto ga Tolkien nije vise razradio.... :no:
Posted by: elrond Jul 3 2003, 12:51 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- Prouèava li netko od vas mordorski?  
 :exl: -----------------------------
za sebe, odgovor je :no: -----------------------------
Steta.... Meni je zao samo sto ga Tolkien nije vise razradio.... :no: -----------------------------
pokušaj googlati christophera T, a onda , šibaj po linkovima :D :D
Posted by: antocjo Aug 17 2003, 10:14 PM

Zavrsio sam Dodatke i lagano prelazim na Silm...

Zapleo se u ona pisma i jezike i cudno mi je bilo ono pravilo da se f kad je na kraju rijeci cita v. Po tome Gandalf ispada Gandalv :puzzled:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Sep 13 2003, 02:24 PM

When the world was young,
When the grasses green,
Upon the horizon, a shining star,
A heavenly light could be seen.

Ir i ardhon/amar neth,
Ir thair io celin,
Bo meneldaeg, êl thiliol,
Gail venelthen tírad gernir.

A maiden clothed in silver-blue,
A star upon her brow,
An angels voice, an elven face,
A beauty seen not now.

Hammen gwenn na geleb-luin,
i êl na nîf în
Lam en Ain, thîr edhellen,
Baneth i tírar ú hi.

She wandered into fangorn,
no fear was in her heart,
and there she found her life-long friend,
From whom she would never part.

Reniant na Fangorn,
Al achas vi gûr în,
Ar ennas hirn he vellon guilann,
O i alluir seidiatha (he).

They named her willow maiden,
For with trees she always dwelt,
To sit among their arms of green,
All there feelings, she to felt.

Estanner hen Tatharwen,
An go ngelaidh illu dorthant,
Haved nedh renc dîn laeg,
Teniaid/Mathaid dîn phain, teniad/gared athen
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Sep 13 2003, 02:25 PM

Lament For Haldir

A Haldir i yaresse
u-reniath ach i amar galen
Ingwidh ristenn i fae narchannen
I reniad lin ne mor, nuithannen
Caled veleg, sthuinannen

May your soul be at peace
May you know the victory was true
Your errand was not in vain
Mornie alantie

Tiro el eria e mor
O mor henion i dhu
I lir en el luitha uren
Ely siriar, el sila
for you and your cause
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Sep 13 2003, 02:29 PM

O light to me who wanders here in the star-lit sky.
In the heavens i tread, and in the heavens i live.
No sweet flowers to smell, no grass beneath my feet,
I smell the change of the world, it smells like the sea.
Let me fall, set me free upon the darkened world.


A calad enni i renia sí vi menel ngilgalthen.
Vi menil bathon, a vi menil cuion.
Û lyth velui an nostad, û thâr di dail nín,
Noston i bress ardhon, nosta sui aear.
Davo nin dannad, leitho nin emin ardhon dhullen.




Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Sep 13 2003, 02:36 PM

Zaboravio sam napomenuti, za one koji ne prepoznaju, ovih par zadnjih postova je sve sindarin. Enjoy! :luuuud:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Sep 13 2003, 02:45 PM

Malo quenye ;)

with love -- melmenen

dear one -- melda

born to fly -- nóna wilien

Sea Star -- Eärel or Eärelen


a beautiful land aside the ocean

vanima nórë ara eäron



Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Sep 13 2003, 02:46 PM

opet quenya:

Mistalë varyasseva ilúvëa - General protection error
Ilenvinyatima hehtalë - Unrecoverable exception
Lerta len pusta nótarelya varnavë - You may now turn
off your computer safely
Merilyë anwave aucarë sina antietéma? - Do you really
want to delete this file?


:silly: :booyah:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Sep 13 2003, 02:52 PM

quenya again...

He will have dominion of all life on this Earth, even until the ending of the world.
Haryuvas túrë or ilya cuilë sina cemendë, voro tenn' ambaro metta.

Freedom and Spirit"
Mirië ar Fairë

"Stormrider"
Raumoroquen

"Water Soul"
Nenfëa

avalatya návalya “shut up”


"May the Valar watch over you - Nai Valar ortiruvar le.
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Sep 13 2003, 02:53 PM

quenya


Earth, tree, mountain, land,
Earth-child, they are at your command.
In silent tongues known by few,
Take Yavanna's gift with you.

Cemen, alda, oron, nórë,
Cemehína, nantë canwelyassë.
Quildë lambinen, istainë illimbinen,
Á mapë Yavanno anna as elyë.

Anger, pain, fear, and woe
Empathy-gifted they are yours to know.
Nienna's visions you will see,
For bless'd by the Weeper you are to be.

Aha, naicë, caurë ar nyérë
Ótenwe-annarwar, nantë lenya ista.
Nienno mauri cenuvalyë,
An Nyennanen almië nauva lestalya.

Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Sep 13 2003, 02:56 PM

"In the name of Ilúvatar, I loose that which binds my flesh to Middle Earth! As I am unmade, so my foes are unmade! It is done!"
Ilúvataro essenen, hehtan tai núta hrávenya Endórienna! Írë ni aráca, arácar ñottonyar inqua! Carna ná!

Hold me until all else passes away and we are left standing here.
Áni hepë tenna ilya ettë auta ar érammë tyúlala símen.

For my beloved,
You are my life, my love, my wife, my soul. Our hearts, forever whole.
an meldanyan,
nalyë cuilenya, melmenya, vessenya, fëanya, órelvar oialë ilúve


Toliko zasad. :booyah:
Posted by: Eowyn Sep 13 2003, 10:02 PM

(URL: http://www.barrowdowns.com/middleearthname.asp)

Ah oprostite...zaboravih napisati o cemu se zapravo radi.... Još jedan name translator...ali ovaj mi se cini bolji....

Edited by Eowyn on Sep 13 2003, 10:15 PM
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Sep 13 2003, 11:28 PM

Ajmo probat...
He, he, ja sam Virtuous Gondorian

Dwarven Name for x
Nîm Orchelm
This name is for both genders.

Orkish Name for x
Ishsnik the Grim
This name is for both genders.

Hobbit lad name for x
Aldagrim Tunnelly from Bree

Elven Name Possibilities for x
The root name suitable for feminine and masculine is:
Alakhen

Gospo Nim, patuljci nas poimenise!!
:luuuud: :kissplus:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Sep 14 2003, 07:10 PM

dobri stari barrowdowns ;)

According to the Red Book of Westmarch,
In Middle-earth, xy was a
Friendless Black Númenorean

Elven Name Possibilities for xy
The root name suitable for feminine and masculine is:
Laicirith
Another masculine version is:
Laicirithion
More feminine versions are:
Laicirithiel
Laicirithien
Laicirithwen

Hobbit lad name for xy
Minto Tussle from theMarish
Hobbit lass name for xy
Menegilda Tussle from theMarish

Dwarven Name for xy
Derin Saphirebringer
This name is for both genders.

Orkish Name for xy
Maurárz the No-Tooth
This name is for both genders.

Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Sep 14 2003, 07:11 PM

Val odkud je ona prva pjesma?kak se zove?
Posted by: Anuviel Sep 14 2003, 10:27 PM

According to the Red Book of Westmarch,
In Middle-earth, xy was a
Hideous Hill-troll

Elven Name Possibilities for xy
The root name suitable for feminine and masculine is:
Iarsulë
Another masculine version is:
Iarsulëion
More feminine versions are:
Iarsulëiel
Iarsulëien
Iarsulëwen

Hobbit lad name for xy
Seredic Green from Haysend
Hobbit lass name for xy
Angelica Green from Haysend

Dwarven Name for xy
Bombur Craftyhand
This name is for both genders.

Orkish Name for xy
Ashkrísh the Tearer
This name is for both genders.

:rolleyes: :ph34r:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Sep 15 2003, 02:33 PM

:ph34r: To sam pokro ljudima sa svog MB - to su njihove pjesme, pa su zajednicki pravodjene na sindarin :ph34r:

Posudio sam ih da ljepota ne ostane nepodijeljena... O:)
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Sep 15 2003, 06:29 PM

ccc...sad cemo te tuziti :lukavi:

:neener:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Sep 15 2003, 10:39 PM

Obratite se s povjerenjem mojoj odvjetnickoj firmi: Balrogs Inc.
:devil: :devil: :devil:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Sep 16 2003, 07:35 PM

vjerujem da bi tamo jako dobro prosli :whistling:
Posted by: Namarie Sep 23 2003, 07:48 AM

a vidim ovjde ima i ucenika quenye i sindarina, evo malo quenye

Gwen benist! ili Bloody Hell! ;) eto i vilenjaci znaju poluditi
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Sep 23 2003, 10:12 AM

itekako :whistling:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Sep 23 2003, 08:38 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- a vidim ovjde ima i ucenika quenye i sindarina, evo malo quenye

Gwen benist! ili Bloody Hell! ;) eto i vilenjaci znaju poluditi -----------------------------
:yes: Ova je dobra. Dobro da nismo englezi, kako bih sad kcerku nazvao Gwen? :rofl:
Posted by: antocjo Sep 26 2003, 09:40 AM

Psalm 23 in Quenya

Héru mavarinya ná
láqua nin penya
Ores ni caita narassessen laique
Tulyas ni ara sende nemi
Ar encantas feanya: tulyas ni
tiennar anweva esseryasse.

Yé, qui vantan ter i nande leo qualmeo
umin rúce ulcullo, an elye asinye;
Tulwelya ar vandilelya serta ni
Carilye nin paluhta nívesse contumonyaron
ulyalye laive carinyanna yulmanya penquanta ná.

Tancave mane are apsenie ni hilyuvar ilye auressen cuilenyo
ar maruvan i coasse Hérunyo oiale.


:wub:


Psalam 23

Jahve je pastir moj:
ni u èem ja ne oskudijevam;
na poljanama zelenim on mi daje odmora.
Na vrutke me tihane vodi
i krijepi dušu moju.
Stazama pravim on me upravlja radi imena svojega.

Pa da mi je i dolinom smrti proæi,
zla se ne bojim, jer si ti sa mnom.
Tvoj štap i palica tvoja utjeha su meni.
Trpezu preda mnom prostireš na oèi dušmanima mojim.
Uljem mi glavu mažeš, èaša se moja prelijeva.

Dobrota i milost pratit æe mene sve dane života moga.
U Jahvinu æu domu prebivati kroz dane mnoge.

Posted by: Fool of a Took Oct 9 2003, 01:26 PM

Zna li netko kako se na sindarinu kaze Vratit cu se?
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Oct 11 2003, 01:11 PM

Da ne bi pomislio da si zanemaren, samo javljam da trazim... :P - malo strpljenja... :booyah:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Oct 11 2003, 06:37 PM

ja nailazim samo na rijecnike i gramatiku :bonk: nasla sam jednu stranicu s frazama ali tog nije bilo tamo :nemanpojma:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Oct 12 2003, 01:59 AM

Kad ne znas koga pitati ;)
Fool, imas dva oblika, oba su ispravna. Ne pitaj koja je razlika...

telithon dan, ili athelithon :yes:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Oct 12 2003, 02:00 AM

I daj ucini nesto s tim avatarom, izbezumljuje me ta faca... :blink: :silly:
Posted by: Anuviel Oct 12 2003, 02:29 AM

kako se kaze dobar dan i zbogom i dovidjenja... :bonk:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Oct 12 2003, 08:29 PM

dobar dan je quel ra ili quel re (nisam sigurna,moram provjeriti) a zbogom je namaarie :)
Posted by: Namarie Oct 13 2003, 09:37 AM

ustvari zavisi o tome na kojem jeziku se prica sindarinski oblik za zbogom je Namárië, a ako upotrijebimo quneyu onda je Navaer. Znaci Namárië samo ako je zbogom u igri. Za "obièno" doviðenja moze se upotrijebiti Mara mesta.

dobar dan na sindarinu bi bio Mara aurë, Imaj dobar dan -Garo arad

Cini mi se da je netko pitao kako se kaze come back. Probati cu nesto iskombinirati ..mislim da bi islo ovako...Koristim kvenijski jer je puno arhaièniji i ugodniji

Entuluvanye rato (Vratiti æu se uskoro)

kombinirala sam prefix en- ponovo, natrag
tul- doæi, nastavak za buduænost -uva,
nye- ja
rato - uskoro

znaci..sasvim je logièno i jednstavno en-tul-uva-nye

Posted by: antocjo Oct 13 2003, 09:55 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Entuluvanye rato (Vratiti æu se uskoro)

kombinirala sam prefix en- ponovo, natrag
tul- doæi, nastavak za buduænost -uva,
nye- ja
rato - uskoro

znaci..sasvim je logièno i jednstavno en-tul-uva-nye -----------------------------
:wacko: Arni bi polomio jezik... :doh:
Posted by: Namarie Oct 13 2003, 10:41 AM

:D
a jedva sma se sjetila koji Arni, on stvarno ima nepopravljiv njemacki naglasak, a za ovo fakat treba imati mekan jezik


Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Oct 13 2003, 12:39 PM

Namarie pa ti se stvarno kuzis u to :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Posted by: Namarie Oct 13 2003, 02:05 PM

:blush:
Elenna ma nije bas da sam strucnjak, ali trudim se, quenya je na neki nacin kao krizaljka, kad proucis neka pravila sve se nadovezuje jedno na drugo :)
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Oct 13 2003, 04:01 PM

ja sam pocela malo uciti jos prije dosta vremena ali mi se sve u :wacko: glavi.a nikak da nadem vremena da to sve lijepo u miru proucim :nemanpojma:
Posted by: Anuviel Oct 14 2003, 11:08 PM

elenna, kad odes u mirovinu bus imala vremena za proucavanje... :yes: :D
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Oct 15 2003, 12:44 PM

:thud:

mislim da cu do tad uspjeti naci malo vremena za to...
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Oct 15 2003, 09:06 PM

glete na sta sam slucajno nabasala (URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/quenya/)
:jumpy:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Oct 15 2003, 10:10 PM

(URL: http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/qcourse.htm)

za one koji imaju vremena proucavati Quenyu :)
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Nov 11 2003, 01:53 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- (URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/quenya/) -----------------------------
to je ona yahoo grupa o kojoj sam vam pricala :)
Posted by: Namarie Nov 14 2003, 09:37 AM

malo vilenjacke konverzacije:

Aragorn: Moj put je skriven od mene (URL: http://www.theargonath.cc/sounds/elvish/dolen.wav)

Arwen: Veæ je pred tvojim stopama. Ne možeš sada posustati. (URL: http://www.theargonath.cc/sounds/elvish/peliannen.wav)

Arwen: Ako ne vjeruješ u ništa drugo, vjeruj ovome, vjeruj nama
(URL: http://www.theargonath.cc/sounds/elvish/estelio.wav)

Aragorn: Imaš šansu za drugi život, daleko od rata, patnje i oèaja.
(URL: http://www.theargonath.cc/sounds/elvish/naeth.wav)

I najjaèi:

Arwen: Ne, moj Gospodaru, zima još nije došla. Želiš li prije vremena ostaviti svoj narod?

(URL: http://www.theargonath.cc/sounds/elvish/law.wav)

(URL: http://www.theargonath.cc/)
Posted by: SandGod Nov 15 2003, 07:59 AM

Jako mi se sviða vilenjaèki jezik. Grlen je i snažan. Zvuèi perfektno.
Pokušavao sam ga nauèiti neko vrijeme, jer bi bilo zabavno hodati po gradu i razgovarati s nekim koristeæi taj jezik, ali nažalost... vrijeme, pa malo ljenosti, i tako još neke sitnice su se isprijeèile.
Ali, tko zna...
:rolleyes:
Posted by: Nenya Nov 15 2003, 02:18 PM

ono... hodaš po ulici... traèaš ljude u facu a oni te ne kuže i još ti se smješkaju... ;)
poznat mi je taj osjeèaj... :lukavi:
Posted by: SandGod Nov 15 2003, 08:51 PM

Nisam imao na umu traèanje, ali tko što voli nek' izvoli, uglavnom kužiš što sam mislio. :)
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Nov 15 2003, 10:14 PM

blago vama koji imate vremena za to :(
Posted by: SandGod Nov 16 2003, 02:48 PM

Nije baš da imam vremena za to, ali onako pomalo u slobodno vrijeme. :)
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Nov 16 2003, 05:13 PM

Elrondova signatura... :wub:

Quenia)
'Elrond's Blessing'
Ála tira acca haiya! Mal si a vanya as márë órelyar! Namárië, ar nai aistalë Eldar ar Atani ar ilyë Léralieron hilya le! Eleni sílar antalyannar!

(...) Look not to far ahead! But go now with good hearts! Farewell, and may the blessing of Elves, Men and all the Free Folk go with you. May the stars shine upon your faces! (I 322).

Posted by: Ezekiel Nov 17 2003, 02:46 PM

Elenna, evo (URL: http://www.zura.info/forum/Elfica_font.zip) mozes skinut mali *.zip fajlek u kojem su TTF fontofi. Kod mene rade najnormalnije, kada ih instaliras nalaze se pod imenom Tengwar Elfica ... tako da ti skratim muku trazenja fonta :)

Ovdje je i mala demonstracija kako font izgleda kad pises s njim... napisano je tvoje ime..
(IMAGE: http://www.zura.info/forum/elenna.gif)

Valjda ce ti radit... ako ne, reci kaj ne stima, pa sredimo.
;)
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Nov 17 2003, 07:31 PM

si siguran da je to moje ime? <_< ili si i ti nasao neki koji nema prevelike veze s tolkienovim prijevodom tegwara

inace thanks :)

Edited by Elenna Alaniel on Nov 17 2003, 06:31 PM
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Nov 17 2003, 08:20 PM

je, u redu ti je ime. pogledaj slova l i a ;)
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Nov 17 2003, 09:50 PM

pa bas l i n ne stimaju :puzzled: a samoglasnici bi se trebali osnacavati crtivama i tockicama :huh:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Nov 17 2003, 10:17 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- pa bas l i n ne stimaju :puzzled: a samoglasnici bi se trebali osnacavati crtivama i tockicama :huh: -----------------------------
L je tocno, u redu je. Samoglasnici se u raznim varijantama tako oznacavaju. Ovdje govorimo o kompjuterskom fontu, gdje je tesko postici tri nivoa pisanja slova, i razumljivo je da se vecinom uzima varijanta u kojoj su samoglasnici prikazani slovima.
Pogledaj i u Alaniel - teoretski, ono i je zavijena crtica, samo nije stavljeno na n, kako bi zapravo trebalo.
Prouci malo opet natpis na kapiji Morije, vidjet ces o cemu govorim :booyah:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Nov 17 2003, 10:21 PM

pa sta l nije kao izvijeno T?a n kao m? :blink:

Edited by Elenna Alaniel on Nov 17 2003, 09:21 PM
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Nov 17 2003, 10:34 PM

Izvijeno T? :slap: Kako ti ocekujes da ja sad zamislim kako se T izvija? U kojem pravcu? Lijev, gore, desno? Kuzis? Ne mozemo preko tastature pricat o tome, na Councilu cemo fino sjest i pisat na papir.
Ali L je 100% tocno, sjecam ga se jos iz svog 2. srednje...u to doba sam imao obicaj po klupi pisat tengwar salabahtere :P

Zapamti, imas nekoliko nacina pisanja, i to s velikim razlikama.
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Nov 17 2003, 10:35 PM

Da, N je malo sumnjivo...
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Nov 17 2003, 10:39 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- u to doba sam imao obicaj po klupi pisat tengwar salabahtere :P -----------------------------
meni je za to zgodniji angerthas :rolleyes:

a l je sto 100% slicno,barem po dodacima.provjerila sam.a ovo tvoje l bi trebalo biti y :huh:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Nov 17 2003, 10:42 PM

A, ne, Dodaci nisu dosta. Oni prikazuju samo jedan nacin pisanja (gledala si tabelu?) Zaboravi tabelu i prouci natpis sa vrata, ispod slike ti pise sindarin prijevod. I onda ides slovo po slovo... ;)

Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Nov 17 2003, 10:44 PM

:thud:
ok,budem.
za par godina kad nadem vremena i za to medu ostalim... :death:
Posted by: Ezekiel Nov 18 2003, 02:21 AM

:rofl:
Ima unutar *.zip fajle i neki pdf dokumentic koji objasnjava raspored slova, njihov izgled, mislim cak da se mogu upotrebljavati i tockice po samoglasnicima ili gdje vec trebaju bit, samo kaj mi se nije htjelo istrazivat vec sam tipkal ko sumanut jer slova izgledaju tak guba kad se ispisuju.

Uopce mi nije palo na pamet da bi font mogao bit krivi.
:slap:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Nov 18 2003, 08:58 AM

np :booyah: bolje ista nego nista
Posted by: Namarie Nov 18 2003, 09:08 AM

Evo ideje za vjencani prsten, samo promijenite ime i dobiti cete famozan prsten

dakle:
(IMAGE: http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/juliring_b.jpg)

Júli meldanyan, cuilenya ar melmenya

'To Juli my beloved, my life and my love'
(ne zaboravite promijeniti ime)

(IMAGE: http://www.elvish.org/gwaith/juliring_small.JPG)
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Nov 18 2003, 09:10 AM

ja sam ocito totalni antitalent za ovakve stvari... <_< Ezekiel help!kak se to pokrece?? :puzzled:
Posted by: Ezekiel Nov 18 2003, 01:03 PM

raspakiras *.zip unutar bilokojeg foldera (recimo TEMP)
zatim otvoris control panel i odaberes fonts
kada se folder sa fontovima otvori odes u meni File i odaberes opciju 'Install new font'
kada se taj panel otvori browsaj do foldera TEMP gdje si raspakirala fontove iz zipa, oznaci ih i klikni ok tak da se instaliraju...
it to je to.... ponekad je potrebno napraviti restart computera, ali samo ponekad jer neki programi nece prepoznat font bez restartanja...

to bi trebalo bit to..

Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Nov 21 2003, 11:28 PM

uspjela :jumpy:
thanks :D
Posted by: elrond Nov 22 2003, 09:56 PM

Meleth Faramir
'Faramir's Love'
Sindarin

Ú-velin vegil faen an ristas dín,
law bilinn an lagoras dín,
law vaethor an aglar dín.
Melin na-erui di i hain veriar: i Vinas Dúnedain.

Quenya

Lá melin i macil calina an laicasserya,
lá i pilin an lintasserya,
lá i ohtar an erya alcar.
Melin eressë sa i entë tirir: i Minassë Núatanion

'I do not love the bright sword for its sharpness,
nor the arrow for its swiftness,
nor the warrior for his glory.
I love only that which they defend: the city of the Men of Númenor.'


Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Nov 22 2003, 10:05 PM

To je tekst pjesme koja se cuje u pozadini dok Boromir pada pod strijelama...i pada...i pada...i pada... :shocking: - dobar izbor, nice touch :booyah:
Posted by: elrond Nov 22 2003, 10:10 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- To je tekst pjesme koja se cuje u pozadini dok Boromir pada pod strijelama...i pada...i pada...i pada... :shocking: - dobar izbor, nice touch :booyah: -----------------------------
This poetical fragment comes from The Lord of the Rings, Book IV, The Window of the West (p. 295) Faramir tells about his love, love to his dear Minas Tirith. These words were used in P. Jackson's film in the scene of Boromir's death
:yes:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Nov 22 2003, 10:17 PM

lá i pilin an lintasserya, - quenya
law bilinn an lagoras dín, - sindarin
nor the arrow for its swiftness, - engleski
__________________________________

E ovo me sad zbunjuje... :blink: - na kojem onda jeziku u filmu u Helm's Deepu Aragorn zapovijeda elfovima?
Hado i phillin - prijevod - Throw the arrows?

Strijele su na sindarinu pilin, na quenyi billin, a sto je onda phillin? Vjerojatnije je da im govori na sindarinu, znamo li da su to Lorien elves, ali nije mi logicno da su gore u pjesmi pogrijesili... :blink: osim ako stvar nije u jednini/mnozini, pa je zato drugaciji obllik...

A i ispada zanimljiv izbor teksta, pogotovo te linije, kad znamo da ovoga upravo probadaju strijele :silly: - ispada malkice bolesno... :silly:
Posted by: elrond Nov 22 2003, 10:27 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- lá i pilin an lintasserya, - quenya
law bilinn an lagoras dín, - sindarin
nor the arrow for its swiftness, - engleski
__________________________________

E ovo me sad zbunjuje... :blink: - na kojem onda jeziku u filmu u Helm's Deepu Aragorn zapovijeda elfovima?
Hado i phillin - prijevod - Throw the arrows?

Strijele su na sindarinu pilin, na quenyi billin, a sto je onda phillin? Vjerojatnije je da im govori na sindarinu, znamo li da su to Lorien elves, ali nije mi logicno da su gore u pjesmi pogrijesili... :blink: osim ako stvar nije u jednini/mnozini, pa je zato drugaciji obllik...

A i ispada zanimljiv izbor teksta, pogotovo te linije, kad znamo da ovoga upravo probadaju strijele :silly: - ispada malkice bolesno... :silly: -----------------------------
ako stvar nije u jednini/mnozini, pa je zato drugaciji obllik... a aragorn ne zapovijeda samo elfovima, prijevod je P.J koristio za potrebe filma
:yes:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Nov 22 2003, 10:29 PM

E, u toj sceni je govorio SAMO elfovima... :ph34r:
Ma nije vazno, provjerit cu poslije.
Posted by: elrond Nov 22 2003, 10:32 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- E, u toj sceni je govorio SAMO elfovima... :ph34r:
Ma nije vazno, provjerit cu poslije. -----------------------------
morat æu detaljnije pogledat, DVD mi je u komi(glava èitaèa se pomaknula ;) a kad æe popravit :no: samo je jedan servis panasionica koji se time bavi <_<
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Nov 22 2003, 10:38 PM

Ma imas to u transcriptu, mislim da je na dvdiju naveden samo engleski prijevod - samo upisi u Google TTT transcript, odmah izbaci dobre linkove.
Posted by: elrond Nov 22 2003, 11:52 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Ma imas to u transcriptu, mislim da je na dvdiju naveden samo engleski prijevod - samo upisi u Google TTT transcript, odmah izbaci dobre linkove. -----------------------------


Aragorn:
Leithio i philinn!
[Translation: "Fire the arrows!"]
(URL: http://www.seatofkings.net/script_ttt.html)
thanks
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Nov 22 2003, 11:55 PM

Fire AND throw, na dva razlicita mjesta. Dvije razlicite rijeci.

Malo cjepidlacim, jel'da? :D :bonk:
Posted by: elrond Nov 23 2003, 12:04 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Fire AND throw, na dva razlicita mjesta. Dvije razlicite rijeci.

Malo cjepidlacim, jel'da? :D :bonk: -----------------------------
ma ne uopæe, recimo... autorski prijevod :D , e sad bi trebalo pogledat gramatiku
Posted by: Narya Nov 23 2003, 08:38 PM












COLORS

liina: white, colorless.

rallia: purple, violet.

raran: striped, banded.

wylera: yellow.


CURRENCY

arin: Lirynn’s currency.

ke’ari: equivalent to a copper piece.

si’ari: equivalent to a silver piece.

sírilé (sírilin): gold piece(s), or any foreign coins of high value.

te’ari: equivalent to a gold piece.


DRESS

casiáen: traditional formal wear for men.

f’ýasa: long traditional dress worn by elvish women, especially on the festivals. It looks much like a sari, and extends down to the ankles, if fitting properly. They can cover the entire arm or not, and some can be adjusted for a better fit.

sárhü: undergarments.



ENDEARMENTS

ina'roel: "true heart" a term used only for the closest and most faithful of companions.

kishya: beloved.

rien'sha: blood-kin, or a friend that is so close as to be one.

sayaroelna: literally, my heart.


FOOD, DRINK, & MISC.

gling: berries.

kielasa: a stew made from the kiela tuber. This tuber is large and fiberous, with a consistency similar to meat, but tasting like a slightly spicy potato. Mixed with other vegetables, it makes for a hearty, tasty, stew.

makíril: chocolate, either in a hot, liquid form or in solid, sweetened bits.

methasa: mint soup.

pylal: smooth-skinned purple fruit. Has a pleasant acidic taste and no seeds.

re'lani: warm and sweet bread, usually served sliced.

remekíril: chocolate sauce over warmed sweet-bread.

seráni: when ripened this fruit is a rich shade of orange-red.

ser'sálintharel: another dark red fruit. It is extremely juicy, making it ideal for ser’sál but rarely eaten on its own.

seryl: a dish of mixed vegetables served with a pepper sauce.

tèresh: A hard-skinned fruit, with a juicy inside. Contains many green seeds which are inedible. The skin is the same pale green as the seeds, the fleshy part is a deep yellow.


Drinks
írine: a light blend of juices from a few fruits in the trees of the Glimmerwood and a trace of alcohol.

ser’sál: sweet red juice taken from the ser'sálintharel fruit.

séssanal: high-quality white wine.



Spices

jí'sal:a potent spice used by only the rich, and even then often sparingly.

shash: marijuana produced by goblins in Mirg. Though not illegal, its consumption is frowned upon, given the fierce elf-goblin rivalry. This does not stop many elves from partaking in shash which has been brought across the border by human traders and smugglers.

ziyashe: one of the few illegal drugs, it causes intense hallucinations which often leaves users insane. After several mass murders were linked to its use, officials banned it.


Dishes
sa'lil'ym: china plates on which you eat your food.


Flavors

fyviil: sharp, acidic tasting.

lalia: sweet tasting.



GOVERNMENT

Bael'lian: mayor.

Siril'verèn: "Guide of the people"; this was the title taken by the first Siril'verèn, Nynel'shian, upon his ascension to the throne. The Monarch of Lirynn, may be of either gender.

selàr: the advisor to both the telár and telaré. Following the coup by the tekàl, this title was retired.

telar: the Monarch of Lirynn; may be of either gender. This title was retired upon the death of the last telár.

telaré: the mate of the telár. Although the last telaré is still alive, she abandoned the title upon her son’s restructuring of the Monarchy.


HEARTH & HOME

ésál: the area where elves perform in an inn or tavern.

hàl'iae: the public baths of Lirynn.

jaial: home.

mi'nika: cat.

qiirra: stool, footrest.

saya: mine. Denotes a possession.

silsra: candle.

tahke' yetal: two stones that are used for cooking. The stones, called yetal and yetale' do not occur together in nature. But, when they are placed next to each other, they begin to slowly heat up. Using these stones, elves are able to cook a variety of food without resorting to fire.

thyroamli: a game of chance involving a pair of dice, imported from another kingdom. One seeks to gain the best combination of symbols, which are based upon its complex rules.

yamal: sleep.



INSULTS & SWEARS

gya'she: damn!

jips'nee: equivalent to a barrel full of laughs. Someone you don’t take seriously.

ke’yesh: lowlife, scum.

rasafragit: a curse, literally translated to "goblin dung!"

te’laya: high-brow, a snob.

yrani: one who is not elven, outsider, foreigner. Used to denote someone who doesn’t subscribe to elven beliefs regardless of biological race. Tone determines whether it is being applied as an insult or not.

LOCATIONS WITHIN LIRYNN

Many areas have secondary names for humans to pronounce more easily.

Deranil'Lyàr: Glimmerwood, north of Silverdawn and is the more dense of the two forests. Much of the food production for the kingdom occurs within these heavily-populated woods.

Deranil'Selàn: Spiritwood, often said to be haunted by the souls of those long-dead, it is home to some of the strangest creatures in Lirynn. The forest runs from south of Silverdawn to Thornmist.

Enth'ryni: Thornmist, Lirynn's smallest village in the south, near the border with Mirg.

Jiess’awyn Mtns.: Firestone Mountains, in the south, east of Thornmist. Rumored to be the hideout of smugglers and supposedly volcanic.

Mistiránlyr: Myst Lake, a popular resort spot for nobles and a major source of water for Silverdawn.

Na'el, the port city, it doesn't have a translation because humans can say it rather easily.

Sherintèsharyn: Drellyn Grasslands, which range from the eastern side of Thornmist in the south, to where the River Tem feeds out to the Ahrin Straits.

Sianthylèsari: Silverdawn, the capital of Lirynn and the most hidden of the cities.

Takashran Mtns.: Barrier Mountains, in the north, east of Na’el. Rumored to contain remnants of a ruined dwarven village.


Within Silverdawn

ketan: "poorer" elves live here and the vast majority spend their days harvesting fruits/leaves, aiding the lifesingers, removing debris and sewage, and other tasks. Most simple labor in the city is done by those in ketan.

sianne: the middle city, inhabited by the middle class of elves, primarily scholars, travellers, the few shopkeepers, etc.

terai: the uppermost portion of Sianthylèsari, inhabited by the wealthy, the noble, and the valued (artists). It contains the military academy and the two largest libraries in Silverdawn, as well as access to the Palace of Morning.

yrtal: the "fourth" level of Silverdawn. Some buildings and homes can not be put up in the branches of the tree, and must be at ground level. The stables and some homes and workshops would be found here.


MILITARY
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anará: blade, also common soldier. i.e infantry.

anarin: the "blades" of the kingdom. This is a term used to signify those elves who have dedicated their lives to training with weapons and learning how to kill (a task normally abhorrent to elves) in order to protect the kingdom. Also can describe the military in general.

élinràsha: those in the military who serve as archers.

ke'm'anarin: Second lieutenant or the equivalent.

ke's'élinràsha: Sergeant or equivalent in the archery division.


Guards and Government Officials

cír'lianrin: the guardians of the Grand Elevator to Sianthylèsari.

sas’lianrin: “Guardian Blades” – the guards to the doors of the Palace of Morning.

siril'anrol: "guides along the way of the blade" -- title given only to the best weapons instructors.

tel’anarol: “The Highest Blades”—the honor guard of the Monarch.

tekàl: the former head of the elvish military forces, answerable only to the telár in war time, and the telár and telaré in peace. After the military coup by the last tekàl, the title and office was eradicated.



MYSTICAL

ke’fai: below life, death.

keyanse: magic or magical (adj.).

shas: soul.

shas'yenas: soul-eater (demon).


NATURE

enth: mist.

eyne: water.

hàl: lake, pond, pool, still water.

halé: river, stream, moving water.

riá: wind.

tahké: flame.

yrta: earth.


Plants

ánshyé: a flower which resembles a calla lily with a plumeria scent.

carran: grass, blades of grass.

fiviel: wildflower.

rilla: root (of a plant).

saani: quick, fast, rapid.

roelarien: "heart's blood" Rarely, when a rien'astà dies naturally, a drop or two of the sap remaining in the tree will petrify into gems so dark a red they almost appear black. These stones are very highly prized, particularly the gems that are shaped like teardrops.

ryni: thorn.


NOBILITY & COURTESY

ásnei: peace.

fael'sarèsh: Faeterna's protection as incarnated through the forests of Lirynn, it is usually explained to outsiders as meaning "Blessings of the forest", much as one might say “May the Gods bless you.”

falan'tar: "thank you". It is used in formal situations, especially those related to the arts. Used to show great appreciation for someone or something.

jylea: “Lady”. A noblewoman.

jylen: “Lord”. A nobleman.

krail’byen: "it is so". A formal phrase used to accord honor to a request made by a high-ranking elf. It is designed to convey the thought that as soon as a request is made, it is carried out.

ren'irrè(sa): "welcome (to)". Typically used only when greeting strangers or those passing through, given its formal connotations.

telensya: The noble families of Lirynn, based upon their relation to the first Royal families. The title can be inherited through either bloodline. Privileges generally include ancestral manors and connections with the upper-crust bureaucracy in Silverdawn. Some enterprising telensya have taken advantage of their titles to obtain vast amounts of wealth through secret trade deals and/or collections of art and other valuable rarities.


PEOPLE
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cendrin: head.

ina'rien: "true blood" a word usually used to signify elves.

jernís: wise old one.

riè-jernís: a seer or fortune teller (not necessarily with magic).

riè'ilis: one who can predict the weather (not necessarily with magic).

sharé: Child or young one. Denotes lack of experience. Tone and context determines difference between "kid" "child" and "inexperienced".

shas'kylien: soul-reader. Also known as a mind-healer.

rien: blood.

roel: heart.

uyn (uynin): worker(s)/laborer(s).

verèn: people (elves).

ynéa (ynéin): official(s)/manager(s)/chief(s).

ynésra (ynésrin): owner(s).


PREFIXES & SUFFIXES
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Prefixes

fai: (as in fei'gn) means life.

ke': ( as in ke'y) Means low, or lesser.

siril: means to guide, raise, or teach.

te': ( as in ta'le) Means High, or greater.

tel: (as in tell) Means top, or highest.


Suffixes

-in: used to denote the plural. In words ending in a vowel, that vowel is dropped before adding the suffix.




RELIGION
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aseylis: lowest rank, they have not declared any one sect yet. These novices dress in dark browns.

síril'asthà: those that guide the growth of the trees in Sianthylèsari to maintain the symbiosis between the elves and the trees; síril'asthà are treated with respect by almost everyone. They generally belong to the Church of Lirynn, but not necessarily any one sect.

ceyl’alfai: “givers of life”. The healers operate out of the Church, and many are members of one of the sects, but like the síril'asthà their loyalty to their patients usually take precedence. Most healers avoid Church politics. They generally dress in brown or dark green, and wear a pendant of Faeterna’s Tree to mark their status.









The Sects


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Ke'site: “The cooperators”. The newest sect of the Church of Lirynn. The name means to raise the low to high. In other words, this sect seeks to help the low races or even the poor in the elven community to attain the higher standards of the rest.

vyia’nali: the priests of the ke’site order, whom generally are appointed to the priesthood as soon as they elect the Ke’site order. They dress in midnight blue.

jali’a’vyi: the overseer of the Ke’site order, who is nominally in charge, although can be removed from office. Dresses in sky blue with a large, golden sun medallion.



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Siril'kete: Those who guide the low towards the ways of the high. The middle sect of the Church of Lirynn, and a very secretive, mystical bunch whose numbers and stature have greatly fallen in recent times.

i’kete: “the unguided” The lowest ranking of the Siril’kete. They are
dressed simply in the sleeveless green robes without any
other adornment. The teachings for this order is far more rigorous as
they are required to not only know their religion, but to be familiar with information-gathering and keep knowledge of rituals to themselves. A great deal of spiritual, mental and physical training is required, all of which takes years.

eti’kir: “the guides”. The priests of this order and the information-gatherers. They continue to wear sleeveless green robes, but are gifted with a bracelet which encircles their wrist.

silari: “those of the path”. These priests focus far more on information-collection than indoctrination, often disappearing for months or weeks at a time in pursuit of their religious ideals. Each eti’kir undertakes a lengthy assignment which generally involves a vision from the Gods before attaining this level. Their robes do not change, however the bracelet is exchanged for an armlet of vines and leaves which spiral from shoulder to elbow.



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Tel'arifae: The high religion of life. The biggest, oldest, and most conservative sect of the Church of Lirynn, their standing has fallen lately as the Ke’site begin to take over important functions that were once the exclusive province of the Tel’arifae.

syanthine: lowest rank of the Tel'arifae. They dress in
pale yellow, symbolizing the beginning of their finding their way
into the Light of Dargotten. They are often sent to
other parts of Lirynn to indoctrinate the common people, or they
remain in the Church Tree to perform various clerical/messenger duties.

te'rida: middle rank of the Tel'arifae sect. In charge of the churches beyond the Mother Church. They dress in golden-yellow, like that of the Sun. They oversee the syanthine and are often in charge of the more day-to-day sermons at the Church of Lirynn. The more important sermons are, of course, spoken by the telayrins, or even the telaris on rare occasions.

telayrin: advisors to the telaris, numbering three. They are in charge when the succession of telaris takes place. They dress in white, the color of Dargotton’s Eye, shining down to guide the peoples of Telgard to salvation. They spend most of the time in the office of the telaris, aiding and advising him in his official duties. They can also be found at the Palace of Morning, as envoys from the telaris to the Monarch.

telaris: the head of the Tel'arifae sect of the Church of Lirynn. Either gender may become the telaris and is the heart of their order, and thus, dressed in pure, blood red robes. He/she is the final word in all the decisions of importance, though their words may be swayed by that of the telayrins. The telaris has their offices (more like a large, spacious suite) in the Church Tree, and spends most of their time in Silverdawn, overseeing the matters of the faith.




Religous Military

arianin: foot soldiers of the religious orders. Each sect maintains their own private army, however they are restricted in size and authority.

ke'ariana: Low religious blade, the religious military equivalent of sergeant.

TIME
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asyl: past

Cha'athania: A ritual or cultural dance only used during the Solstices and Equinoxs of a year.

l’ínar: hour.

l’ínar an serínth: hour of day.

serínth: day.




WRITING
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cetá: thin bark seals stamped with the official seal of a village or city; used to seal peace knots or affixed to official documents.

lèr'ál: a sharp, artificially formed, writing implement.

ristá: pieces of thinly cut bark that is used to write upon.

sè'ryn: used to soak up any excess of sì'rél by absorbing the liquid.

sì'rél: is related to the juice ser'sál, but a blend of pigments from a few leaves and berries darkens the red juice so as to make it easier to read.




Pa sad,ako vam se da èitat.....







Posted by: Ezekiel Nov 24 2003, 12:33 AM

DAYUM!
:rofl:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Nov 24 2003, 01:39 PM

:wow: :wow:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Nov 24 2003, 01:53 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- INSULTS & SWEARS

gya'she: damn!

jips'nee: equivalent to a barrel full of laughs. Someone you don’t take seriously.

ke’yesh: lowlife, scum.

rasafragit: a curse, literally translated to "goblin dung!"

te’laya: high-brow, a snob.

yrani: one who is not elven, outsider, foreigner. Used to denote someone who doesn’t subscribe to elven beliefs regardless of biological race. Tone determines whether it is being applied as an insult or not.
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E ovo nam je bilo neophodno!!! :D :D :D Thanks, mylady... :wub:
Posted by: luthien Dec 2 2003, 11:40 PM

jel moze neko nabavit pjesmicu elbereth na runama?? :rolleyes:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Dec 3 2003, 12:10 AM

Nda... :unsure: vidjet cemo. Cekaj subot, onda mogu kopat'. :D
Posted by: luthien Dec 3 2003, 01:20 AM

ma evo ti jedan cmok!
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Dec 3 2003, 01:22 AM

^_^
Posted by: Narya Dec 7 2003, 03:46 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- Which character in The Lord of the Rings is most like you?
personality test, malo zabave kog zanima
(URL: http://www.lotruk.com/personalitytest/index.html) -----------------------------
a ovdje mi je izbacio: Gandalf :rolleyes: -----------------------------
I MENI ISTO.A GLE ZA IME:
If you were a Hobbit, your name would be Alylonna Gardner
and if you were a (female) Man, your name would be Sevossi
and if you were an Elf, your name would be Eowulia
and if you were a Dwarf, your name would be Nilla
and if you were an Orc, your name would be Erilo
Your nearest Tavern might be called The Stinking Cow
and your sword would be called Glamcating

Posted by: Narya Dec 7 2003, 03:47 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- INSULTS & SWEARS

gya'she: damn!

jips'nee: equivalent to a barrel full of laughs. Someone you don’t take seriously.

ke’yesh: lowlife, scum.

rasafragit: a curse, literally translated to "goblin dung!"

te’laya: high-brow, a snob.

yrani: one who is not elven, outsider, foreigner. Used to denote someone who doesn’t subscribe to elven beliefs regardless of biological race. Tone determines whether it is being applied as an insult or not.
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E ovo nam je bilo neophodno!!! :D :D :D Thanks, mylady... :wub: -----------------------------
Nema na èemu,sir barlože! :wub:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Dec 7 2003, 03:48 PM

Stinking cow... :rotfl: Meni je ispalo nesto s nosom, ne mogu se sjetit... a kako bi se zvala da si prsten? :rotfl:
Posted by: Narya Dec 7 2003, 03:50 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Zna li netko kako se na sindarinu kaze Vratit cu se? -----------------------------
nemam blage al uvijek nam je poznata ona dobra stara uzreèica:
-I'm back (Aragorn)
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Dec 7 2003, 03:52 PM

Well, I'm back - cini mi se da to kaze Sam...a mozda se i varam... :puzzled:
Mozda ne mislimo na isto, valjda i Aragorn to negdje kaze - ja govorim o onoj recenici na kraju knjige... :nemanpojma:
Posted by: Narya Dec 7 2003, 03:53 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Malo quenye ;)

with love -- melmenen

dear one -- melda

born to fly -- nóna wilien

Sea Star -- Eärel or Eärelen


a beautiful land aside the ocean

vanima nórë ara eäron -----------------------------
Gerich valeth nin je volim te ili imaš moju ljubav.Ja mislim da sa vako piše,sad..... B)
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Dec 7 2003, 03:54 PM

Melda Narya... ;) bas pase... thanks.... :booyah:
Posted by: Narya Dec 7 2003, 03:56 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Ajmo probat...
He, he, ja sam Virtuous Gondorian

Dwarven Name for x
Nîm Orchelm
This name is for both genders.

Orkish Name for x
Ishsnik the Grim
This name is for both genders.

Hobbit lad name for x
Aldagrim Tunnelly from Bree

Elven Name Possibilities for x
The root name suitable for feminine and masculine is:
Alakhen

Gospo Nim, patuljci nas poimenise!!
:luuuud:  :kissplus: -----------------------------
According to the Red Book of Westmarch,
In Middle-earth, xxx was a
Virtuous Wood-Elf

Elven Name Possibilities for xxx
The root name suitable for feminine and masculine is:
Ascaandúnê
Another masculine version is:
Ascaandúnêion
More feminine versions are:
Ascaandúnêiel
Ascaandúnêien
Ascaandúnêwen

Hobbit lad name for xxx
Andwise Grubb from Sackville
Hobbit lass name for xxx
Tanta Grubb from Sackville

Dwarven Name for xxx
Nîm Elfboot
This name is for both genders.

Orkish Name for xxx
Ishurk the Grim
This name is for both genders.


pa nije tako loše,samo bi se cijela spetljala dok izgovorim svoje ime na vilenjaèkom :whistling:

Edited by Narya on Dec 7 2003, 03:56 PM
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Dec 7 2003, 04:00 PM

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I ti si Nim... :rofl:
Posted by: Narya Dec 7 2003, 04:01 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Zar Aniron ne znaci: please? :huh: -----------------------------
prije bi aniron znaèilo desire
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Dec 7 2003, 04:01 PM

:blush: istina... :yes:
Posted by: Narya Dec 7 2003, 04:01 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I ti si Nim... :rofl: -----------------------------
Ima ti nas Nimova svugdi po svitu
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Dec 7 2003, 04:02 PM

Jel znas da nim zapravo znaci BIJELO? :eureka:
Posted by: Narya Dec 7 2003, 04:04 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Jel znas da nim zapravo znaci BIJELO? :eureka: -----------------------------
sad znam :booyah:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Dec 7 2003, 04:07 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- Jel znas da nim zapravo znaci BIJELO? :eureka: -----------------------------
sad znam :booyah: -----------------------------
Volim kad sam koristan... :P ajde poviri u Sastanke, stavio sam ti jedno pitanje tamo. :exl:
Posted by: Narya Dec 7 2003, 04:09 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Well, I'm back - cini mi se da to kaze Sam...a mozda se i varam... :puzzled:
Mozda ne mislimo na isto, valjda i Aragorn to negdje kaze - ja govorim o onoj recenici na kraju knjige... :nemanpojma: -----------------------------
a ja govorim o filmu kad aragorn upada theodenu.znaš ono kad otvara vrata.doduše tamo ne piše I'm back ali meni se uèinilo skroz-naskroz prigodno :blush:
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Dec 7 2003, 04:12 PM

E vidis, toga se uopce nisam sjetio... :eureka:
Posted by: sholky Dec 11 2003, 10:22 PM

Ja sam sebi napisao mali memento Quenye ( zapravo prije izvucena sva gramaticka pravila iz 200 stranica dugog tecaja Quenye na www.ardalambion.com), pa ako mi date svoj mail mogu vam ga poslati.
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Dec 11 2003, 11:14 PM

yesssss....
Svi mi imamo mail u nasem profilu, i ti si ga morao upisati, sjecas se? Klknes na nase ime, bilo gdje da ga vidis, i otvori ti se profil, i u njemu ti pise mail. ne vidis ga, ali sigurno dodje.
Dakle, molim meni jedan... :P :klap:
Posted by: Anuviel Dec 12 2003, 02:54 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Ja sam sebi napisao mali memento Quenye ( zapravo prije izvucena sva gramaticka pravila iz 200 stranica dugog tecaja Quenye na www.ardalambion.com), pa ako mi date svoj mail mogu vam ga poslati. -----------------------------
molim i meni jedan :yes:
Posted by: sholky Dec 12 2003, 11:38 AM

Kad vam kliknem na mail otvori mi se nova stranica za slanje mail-a u kojoj ne postoji mogucnost stavljanja attachmenta. :angry:
Inace pitao sam vas mail zato sto inace vecina ljudi ne stavlja svoj pravi mail na forume zbog spama.
P.S. Narya mi je lijepo poslala pm sa svojim mailom i ja sam njoj poslao memento, to je promjer lijepog ponasanja.
;) :D
Posted by: antocjo Dec 12 2003, 11:58 AM

Ej hvala sholky, dobio i ja :klap:

Nego, èini mi se da toga nema puno èak bi se moglo copy-paste-ati ovdje (ako se smije :blush: ). U stvari možda još bolje u novi topic koji bi se kasnije zakljuèao tako da je uvijek lako dostupno, a ne da se mora tražiti u ovom topicu... pa ako ti se da slobodno kreiraj u ovom forumu novi topic i u njega to kopiraš (možeš u više postova :yes: ), pa ga kasnije.. npr. Elenna zakljuèa :rolleyes:
Posted by: sholky Dec 12 2003, 10:33 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Ej hvala sholky, dobio i ja :klap:

Nego, èini mi se da toga nema puno èak bi se moglo copy-paste-ati ovdje (ako se smije :blush: ). U stvari možda još bolje u novi topic koji bi se kasnije zakljuèao tako da je uvijek lako dostupno, a ne da se mora tražiti u ovom topicu... pa ako ti se da slobodno kreiraj u ovom forumu novi topic i u njega to kopiraš (možeš u više postova :yes: ), pa ga kasnije.. npr. Elenna zakljuèa :rolleyes: -----------------------------
naperavljeno :D
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Dec 12 2003, 11:38 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- pa ga kasnije.. npr. Elenna zakljuèa :rolleyes: -----------------------------
jos kad bi mi neko napokon objasnio kako se zakljucava... <_<
Posted by: Valarauco ramainen Dec 13 2003, 01:07 AM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- pa ga kasnije.. npr. Elenna zakljuèa   :rolleyes: -----------------------------
jos kad bi mi neko napokon objasnio kako se zakljucava... <_< -----------------------------
:hah: A meni ste se smijali...

Na desnoj strani, dolje nisko, imas topic options. Samo izaberes lock... :blush:
Posted by: antocjo Dec 13 2003, 03:38 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- :hah: A meni ste se smijali...

Na desnoj strani, dolje nisko, imas topic options. Samo izaberes lock... :blush: -----------------------------
Nije lock nego Close :hah:
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Dec 13 2003, 09:51 PM

napokon mi je netko barem nesto objasnio :notworthy:
Posted by: sholky Dec 14 2003, 12:09 AM

A da ga i zalijepis gore tako da bude uvijek dostupan? :D
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Dec 14 2003, 11:09 PM

:huh: probat cu...
<_<
Posted by: sholky Dec 17 2003, 11:07 PM

Konačno! Elvish dijalozi iz rotk-a!
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

∙ Sindarin ∙



29. Elrond and Aragorn [The Return of the King]

Elrond meets Aragorn in Thoedens tent to bring him the reforged sword. Words by J.R.R. Tolkien in the so called Gilrain's Linnod (LR III, App. A)



elrond: Ónen i-Estel Edain.

aragorn: Ú-chebin Estel anim.



aragorn: 'I gave Hope to the Dúnedain'.

aragorn: 'I have kept no hope for myself'.



ónen v. pret. 'I gave'.

i Estel n. 'the Hope'.

Edain n. pl. 'Men', pl. of Adan 'man'.

ú-chebin v. pret. 'I keep; I have kept'; chebin is the lenited form of *hebin.

anim pron. 'for myself'; from an-im 'for-me'.





∙ Sindarin ∙



30. Aragorn's Thanks [The Return of the King]

When all battles are fought and Aragorn in crowned King of Gondor he goes up to Legolas, lays his hand upon Legolas' shoulder and says:



Aragorn [to Legolas]: Hannon le.



Aragorn [to Legolas]: 'Thank you.'



hannon v. pres. 'I thank'; *hanna- 'thank'; cf. Q *hanta- 'thank' < hantale 'thanksgiving', KHAN- 'understand, comprehend'.

le pron. 'you'.





∙ Sindarin ∙



31. Elrond's Lament [The Return of the King]

The exclusive online video 'behind the scenes' on the official movie-elvish website. Hugo Weaving's (Elrond) interview.



elrond: I Aear cân ven «Namar»



elrond: 'The Sea calls us «Farewell»'



i aear n. 'the sea'.

cân v. pres. 'calls'; cf. S can- 'cry out, shout, call' (PM 361-2)

ven pron. 'to us'; lenited form of men; cf. S ammen 'to us' < an-men.

namar interj. 'farewell'; cf. Q namárië.





∙ Sindarin ∙



32. Arwen's Farewell [The Return of the King Extended Edition?]

First information came in an elfling message from Harri Perälä. Probably Arwen's words to dying Aragorn; cf. Arwen's 'Would you then, lord, before your time leave your people that live by your word?' (Appendix A in The Return of the King).



Sound file from an interview with Liv Tyler.



arwen: Law, hîr nín, ú dollen i Rîw. Anírach, nui lû, gwannad uin gwaith lín?



arwen: 'No, my lord, the winter hasn't come. Do you wish, before the time, to leave your people?'



law adv 'no, indeed not'; cf. Quenya lá, lau, laumë; LA-, UGU-.

hîr n. 'lord'.

nín pron. 'my'.

ú dollen v. pret. 'hasn't come'.

i Rîw n. 'the winter'; lenited form of Rhîw.

anírach v. pres. 'you wish'; cf. agorech 'you did'

nui prep. 'before the'; no 'under, *before' + i 'the'

lû n. 'time'

gwannad inf. 'to depart, to leave'

uin prep. 'from the'

gwaith n. 'people'

lín pron. 'your'





∙ Quenya ∙



37. Frodo's Invocation [The Return of the King]

As Frodo holds aloft Galadriel's phial in Shelob's Lair he shouts the well known:



frodo: Aiya Eärendil Elenion Ancalima!



frodo: 'Hail Eärendil brightest of the Stars!'



aiya inter. 'behold, hail'.

Eärendil name. 'Sea-lover'.

elenion n. 'of the stars'.

ancalima adj. 'exceedingly bright'.




∙ Rohirric (Old English) ∙



46. Battle Song.

The first information about this phrase came from Jude Fisher's The Return of the King - Visual Companion (November 2003). This text comes from Old English The Battle of Maldon.



the rohirrim (?): Hige sceal þe heardra, heorte þe cenre,

mod sceal þe mare þe ure maegen lytlað.



the rohirrim (?): 'Will shall be the sterner, heart the bolder,

spirit the greater as our strength lessens.'
Posted by: Goldberry Dec 18 2003, 12:34 AM

------------ QUOTE ----------
frodo: Aiya Eärendil Elenion Ancalima!



frodo: 'Hail Eärendil brightest of the Stars!'
-----------------------------
:jumpy: :thumbup: :klap:
Eärendil ..... :wub: :wub:
To mi je jedan od najboljih djela u TT-u (uz onaj dio kada nam frodo "umre" :crryyy: )
Posted by: Elenna Eleniel Dec 18 2003, 08:27 AM

to bi bolje pasalo u spoilere <_< znas nije bas lako prelaziti preko toga a da ne pogledas nijedanput :thud:
Posted by: elrond Dec 25 2003, 05:03 PM

"Mára mesta an ni véla tye ento, ya rato nea"

zbogom do sljedeæeg viðenja, a nadam se da æe tu uskoro biti"
Posted by: Varda Dec 25 2003, 08:48 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Kad vam kliknem na mail otvori mi se nova stranica za slanje mail-a u kojoj ne postoji mogucnost stavljanja attachmenta. :angry:
Inace pitao sam vas mail zato sto inace vecina ljudi ne stavlja svoj pravi mail na forume zbog spama.
P.S. Narya mi je lijepo poslala pm sa svojim mailom i ja sam njoj poslao memento, to je promjer lijepog ponasanja.
;) :D -----------------------------
Sholky - kad prevedes ovo: RAIKA E' TINCYATOST - postamo se :)
Posted by: Varda Dec 25 2003, 08:50 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- "Mára mesta an ni véla tye ento, ya rato nea"

zbogom do sljedeæeg viðenja, a nadam se da æe tu uskoro biti" -----------------------------
:bye: :shocking:
Posted by: elrond Dec 26 2003, 12:29 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- "Mára mesta an ni véla tye ento, ya rato nea"

zbogom do sljedeæeg viðenja, a nadam se da æe tu uskoro biti" -----------------------------
:bye: :shocking: -----------------------------
e, ovo ti je arktièki :D
Posted by: Varda Dec 27 2003, 01:18 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- ------------ QUOTE ---------- "Mára mesta an ni véla tye ento, ya rato nea"

zbogom do sljedeæeg viðenja, a nadam se da æe tu uskoro biti" -----------------------------
:bye: :shocking: -----------------------------
e, ovo ti je arktièki :D -----------------------------
:angry: Kako se kaze na sindarinskom "PROSTAK". (A ja mislila da on ode na put. :lukavi: )
Posted by: elrond Dec 27 2003, 04:41 PM

:o :o :huh:
ma nije prostak :no: :no: :no: :no:
nego, "Pisma Djeda Božiænjaka"
The Father Christmas Letters"
ako veæ nemaš. onda kupi klincima za Novo ljeto,
meni bijaše cool B)
Posted by: Varda Dec 27 2003, 06:44 PM

:) Brzojav za mr. Elronda! STOP ja mislila ti ides na put STOP pa pozelio oprostiti se na sindari STOP pa kao dobra kraljica svom podaniku STOP zazeljeh ti sretan put STOP a ti se zezao STOP zato ono sto vec jeste STOP
dovrseno 18,43


Posted by: elrond Dec 27 2003, 07:16 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- :) Brzojav za mr. Elronda! STOP ja mislila ti ides na put STOP pa pozelio oprostiti se na sindari STOP pa kao dobra kraljica svom podaniku STOP zazeljeh ti sretan put STOP a ti se zezao STOP zato ono sto vec jeste STOP
dovrseno 18,43 -----------------------------
brzojav primljen STOP
:booyah: :rotfl:
Posted by: Anuviel Dec 28 2003, 03:58 AM

(URL: http://media.salon.com/mp3s/tolkien2.mp3) :wub: :wub: :wub:

(URL: http://www.angelfire.com/wizard/arwen_undomiel/Elves_havens.wav)
Posted by: sholky Dec 31 2003, 03:51 PM

Evo sad sam nabrzinu prosao cijeli ovaj topic da vidim je li ovo vec postano i cini mi se da nije :D ;) :

Some useful Elvish word and phrases
compiled by Ninni M Pettersson
Mellonath Daeron has for some time laboured in compiling a list of handy Elvish words and phrases for the use of the Forodrim (The Stockholm Tolkien Society). Below are some of the more useful or funny ones we have discovered or constructed to date.

For brief subject-oriented vocabularies in Quenya and Sindarin, see also Ardalambion's Taste of Elvish.

S = Sindarin, Q = Quenya, f = feminine, m = masculine

Phrases of greeting Hello S Suilad Lit. 'greeting', can be used in most situations.
Hello S Mae govannen Lit. 'well met', used when meeting someone, but not in written messages.
Friends S Mellyn A fitting start to a written message to more than one person.
A star shines on the hour of our meeting Q Elen síla lúmenn' omentielvo
Live well! S Cuio mae! (First recorded usage by D. Daniel Andriës.)
Goodbye Q Namárie
Goodbye, until we meet again Q Namárie, tenn' enomentielva
Be seeing you Q Tenn' enomentielva Lit. 'until we meet again'
Many greetings S Meneg suilaid Lit. 'thousand greetings', useful for ending written messages.


Useful exclamations
Yes! Q Tancave! Lit. 'certainly'.
No! Q Lau!
Thanks! Q Hantale! S Hannad! Lit. 'thankgsgiving'.
Many thanks! S Hennaid evyr! Lit. 'overflowing thanksgiving'.
Listen! S Lasto!
Don't! S Baw!
Stop! S Daro!
Open! S Edro!
Horray! Q Alayambo!
Horray! I have found it! Q Yé! Utúvienyes!
Praise! S Eglerio! Q A laita!
Cheers! Q Almien! Lit. 'to good fortune'.
Into the fog! Q Hísenna! This is a Swedish phrase used as an alternative to 'cheers!'


Useful exhortations
Fare well! S Cuio nin mellon! Lit. 'live [and be] to me a friend'.
Fare well! S Cuio nin mellyn! Lit. 'live [and be] to me friends'.
Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Q A ná merye i turuhalmeri ar alya i vinya loa! Lit. 'may the christmas days be joyful and the new year blessed'.
Have a good summer vacation! Q Nai áre laireva calyuva i falassi! Lit. 'may summerlike sunshine illuminate the beaches'.


Conversation
I don't speak Quenya. Q Quetin ú quenyo.
Your hair shines like gold. Q Findelya cala ve laure.
Come outside with me and look at the stars. Q Nai hótuluvalve i meneltannar tirien.
Your place or mine? Q Mano mardenna?
Take off your clothes and lie down on the bed! Q A helta ar caita caimanna!
I will love you for better for worse till death us do part. Q Le meluvan úne ar alye lúmessen tenna nurucilie.


Useful in the Forodrim Rise for the entrance of the Grand Council! S Minnar in Ernilath rîn, erio Forodrim! Lit. 'the crowned princes enter, may Forodrim rise'.
The Grand Council S (in) Ernilath rîn (Forodrim) Q (i) Carmacundor (Formenyaliéva) Lit. 'the crowned princes of Forodrim'.
decree Q canwa
Middle-earth name Q cilmesse Lit. 'name of personal choice'.
astronomer S meneldir Q elentirmo
chirurgeon S nethron Q nestar
dame S híril / heryn Q roquen
doyen S einior Q anyáro Lit. 'eldest (one)'
earl S conen Q (f) cáni (m) cáno
editor S siniathron Q vinyardur
guild S mellonath Q otornasse / otornas
guildmaster S herdir Q (f) turce (m) turco
herald Q tercáno
historian S gobethron Q lúmequentaro
household S herth
keeper of the hall Q mardur / sambetur
keeper of the treasure Q harmavaryon / harmavaryar
king of arms S teithir Q turmangolmo / sandangolmo
knight S rohir Q roquen
librarian S parvastur Q parmandur
magician S ithron Q istar
maid of honour S camwen Q hérince
master of the feast S merethir
prince, princess S ernil Q (f) aranel (m) cundu
scribe S tegilbor Q tecilquar
secretary S tegor / teithron Q tecar
squire S magor Q ohtar
treasurer S maldir Q harwendur
webmaster S nathron Q natsendur




P.S. Ereinion, je li ti nesto poznato odavde?
:D ;)
Posted by: elrond Dec 31 2003, 04:06 PM

:booyah: :klap: :klap:
Posted by: elrond Jan 1 2004, 07:20 PM

na ovom linku možete naæi lingvistièke "korijene" jezika ME, a i poslušati djeliæ Kalevale, finskog epa
(URL: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngbeyond/rings/language.html)

• Black Speech: "Ash nazg durbatulûk, ash nazg gimbatul, ash nazg thrakatulûk agh burzum-ishi krimpatul—One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them"

• Quenya: "Elen sila lûmenn' omentielvo—A star shines on the hour of our meeting" (

• Dwarvish: "Khazâd-ai-mênu!—The Dwarves are upon you!"

Saruman's name derives from the Anglo-Saxon, or Old English, root "searu-" for "treachery" or "cunning."
"Sauron" is linked to the Old Norse or Icelandic stem meaning "filth" or "dung" or "uncleanness."
"Mordor" derives from the Old English word "morthor," which means "murder."
"Middle-earth" is related to the name "middan-geard," which was the name for the Earth itself in Old English poetry and was considered to be the battleground between the forces of good and evil.***

Tolkien's High Elvish language, Quenya, was inspired by Finnish. Tolkien taught himself Finnish in order to read the Kalevala, a 19th-century compilation of old Finnish songs and stories arranged by Elias Lönnrot into a linear epic poem and completed in 1835 and revised in the mid-1800s.



Edited by elrond on Jan 1 2004, 06:21 PM
Posted by: sholky Jan 1 2004, 09:29 PM

www.elvish.org/gwaith

Imaju dosta novih stvari za Bozic (vidjet cete ih odma na vrhu).
A ako kliknete na lijevoj strani na "project" mozete vidjeti Sillmarillion u originalu , a ne u onoj ruznoj preradi onog Tolkiena :D ;)



Edited by sholky on Jan 1 2004, 11:41 PM
Posted by: Anuviel Jan 1 2004, 11:39 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- P.S. Jel se bozic pise velikim ili malim slovom? :puzzled: :bonk: -----------------------------
:o :shocking: pa velikim slovom sholky :yes:
Posted by: sholky Jan 1 2004, 11:43 PM

Editirano :D

Odakle tebi taj qoute? Nisam ja to napisao :D ;)
Posted by: Anuviel Jan 1 2004, 11:46 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- Editirano :D

Odakle tebi taj qoute? Nisam ja to napisao :D ;) -----------------------------
dokaz postoji :P :whistling:
Posted by: sholky Jan 2 2004, 11:20 AM

Postoji jedan casopis o Tolkienovim jezicima, Vinyar Tengwar, i mozete downloadati jedan njegov broj ovdje:
(URL: http://www.elvish.org/VT/sample.html)
Posted by: elrond Jan 2 2004, 04:33 PM

------------ QUOTE ---------- www.elvish.org/gwaith

Imaju dosta novih stvari za Bozic (vidjet cete ih odma na vrhu).
A ako kliknete na lijevoj strani na "project" mozete vidjeti Sillmarillion u originalu , a ne u onoj ruznoj preradi onog Tolkiena :D ;) -----------------------------
:booyah: :booyah:
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